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FR Sat: Solo warmup leads to solid night

2011-10-18T10:49:00.000-07:00

I had a good night Saturday and the only thing that I might have done better was to try to push one particular set to a pull despite likely bad logistics. I started out solo as I didn't hear from G, and all my RSD guys, including my main wing 2j, were at Hot Seat. I got to Wrigley and found a parking spot right away. I sat in the car for 10 minutes surfing the net on my phone and then I finally decided I wasn't gonna be stupid and sit there. I haven't done any solo gaming in a long time and I know that it would be good to push myself to do some. Besides, trying warm ups solo is way better than just sitting in the car waiting.

The first bar I walked into, I ended up standing around for 10 minutes doing nothing. When I don't take action for that long in a venue, I find it easier to just reboot myself by leaving and going somewhere new. I forced myself to open some sets immediately upon entering the second venue. After talking to two different sets, I found myself feeling good and excited about being out.

Quick kiss close:
In the 4th venue, I passed by this pale girl and just pulled her into me. From the way we maintained eye contact, I could just tell that it was on. Her situation was perfect too: she had just moved to Chicago a few weeks ago to start a new job. She hasn't really seen much of the city and sounded excited as I talked about all these interesting restaurants and other spots. She likes food and travel.

I asked her to sit down, and I could tell she wanted to kiss me. I was exercising what Tyler described in his "Physical Game" video. Instead of immediately going for the kiss, I just held the tension. As he describes in the video, the dynamic was different from times in the past when I knew or suspected the girl wanted to kiss me and I held back because I was afraid to do so. I finally kissed her briefly and of course, she wanted it. I pulled it back right away but we'd kiss 2 more times while talking there. Later, I remember there being a pause in the conversation. It was time to kiss and I just looked into her eyes, and she couldn't take the tension and leaned in to kiss me.

There was a break as I text 2j. He was meeting me but I hadn't responded since I was in the set so he was next door. I told him to come meet me here as my girl had several friends at the venue including this cute Asian girl. There was break here when 2j came and my girl went to talk to some other friends. She was in a big set of several college friends.

2j and I hung out at the venue for awhile. I kept asking him whether the move was to try to pull her or to just continue the night. It seemed like a solid Day 2 possibility. Ultimately, I decided to not push for the pull. The reasons that the pull seemed difficult are: she was in a big group of friends and they were all around 21-22 (these younger sets are less likely to let their friends be pulled, unlike late 20's+ girls who will often just let it happen). I would add that I threw out some feelers about grabbing food or hanging out after. She said she wasn't hungry and she said we could hang out again on another day. While those two responses were normal, they also indicated that this wasn't a situation where the girl was gonna make it super easy to be pulled.

On the other hand, part of me knows I need pulling practice. What stuck in my head too is that I went to the dance floor to tell her I was going to check out this other club. She must have thought I asked her to go to Barleycorn as she paused for a second to think about it and then said she should probably stay here with her friends. That pause means that I probably could have moved her around that bar, made out with, and then pushed her to go to the other club. If I got the veneu change and hung out with her till close, I might have gotten the pull to her place.

I settled for taking using the phone number (which I took shortly after I first kissed her) and trying to set up a Day 2.

Solid number close:
We were walking around the huge dance floor at the other venue. I had several sets that I just massively hooked. This one girl, I just walked by and pulled into me. It's amazing how when I'm in state (heck, I'd even say, this happens when I'm just not in a shitty state), I can just go up to girls at will and get strongly positive reactions. I'll pull the girl in and the eye contact will be strong and I can tell that at that initial opening, she wants me. Of course, it's easy to lose that feeling by doing something low value or other stuff happening. Still, it's something that I only began to experience regularly as my game really started improving at the end of summer.

I ended up number closing this one girl. I had asked her logistical questions. She was with a girl and a gay friend and she said they were going to Berlin (this gay club near by). I took her number because we had interesting conversation. She's interested in travel and international events. I text her and she's been responding more enthusiastically than the girl I actually kissed that night. Strange how that works.

No after hours:
As I mentioned, I had some other strong sets while I was out but nothing really materialized from them. I had definitely built momentum from the awesome Free Tour speech and from going out since Wednesday. 2j hates doing after hours nowadays. I could have gone out solo, but I was tired from having run 10 miles Saturday and from going out Wed-Sat so I was happy to call it a night. Besides, I had a good evening already.

The Return of G and Inspiration

2011-10-15T19:09:00.000-07:00

The Free Tour definitely motivated G. He came out to the Chicago Art District event late but he started strong. He had text me but I didn't notice the text and by the time we ran into him, he had already opened. I had to wait an hour until I opened. I'm always in beast mode at the bar or club but I still have a hard time in day game situations. After we met up with G, I saw him open and it made me want to open more.

I'll also add that G and I talked about committing to running the marathon next year. I plan on doing a holding pattern with my runs through winter. I've build up to where I'm running 5 milesx3 days a week and doing a long run. My long run has been at 8 miles but I decided to kick it up to 10 miles today. I still have to figure out how much indoor running I can handle. If I just run at least 20 miles a week during winter, though, I'll be in good shape to ramp up my training in Spring.

At the club, I got into two longer sets with 2j. Unfortunately, his roommate had decided to come out. The guy is okay, but he's a drag to 2j when we're out sarging. When it's just 2j and I, or if the extra people are community guys or naturals, 2j is usually in state and ready to hit sets hard. When his roommate comes out, he used it as an excuse to dick around doing nothing. Ideally, I should just run off and do my own things but there is a specific instance when I get annoyed. I told G and 2j I was opening this nearby set and I'd need a wing. I was in the set for awhile and nobody came. I ran over and grabbed 2j and bitched at him for dicking around. He came and winged and we had a long set.

I had this other long set that I maybe should have stayed in a bit longer. I had this short girl hooked. Vinny had come in to wing me but he disappeared a few minutes into the set and I could tell the friend was getting bored. I pulled 2j in and he talked but then just stood there. He tried and I know sometimes you just don't click with a girl. When that happens to me when I'm wining, I'll just steamroll them with stories or other material.

There were a few other sets I hooked really strongly at the beginning but to no avail.

Later, I did some quick street game near Division. I had some brutal bust outs as I really wasn't in state but was forcing myself to do the approaches. 2j tried to advice me on how to claw moving sets properly. I told him that the problem wasn't that I didn't know how to do it, the problem was that I really didn't want to open, but at the last second, I'd force myself and that's why I was doing it wrong.

Anyway, I can tell my game as built momentum from Wednesday-Friday, and I'm pushing myself harder after being inspired by the free tour. Tonight, I'm gonna try sober sarging and I'm going to continue to both push hard and try to enjoy myself.

Jeffy Free Tour Brings Out the Beast mode in me

2011-10-14T13:29:00.000-07:00

2j and I went to the RSD free tour last night. I told several people about it and it was good to see some of them there. The event has massive value including what Tyler has called a "burst of in field video." I'm sure that was really valuable to G and Raw who aren't as familiar with the current RSD stuff. I had seen two of the videos before but there were several new ones. The talk was entertaining and humorous and inspirational as well. While I know most of the concepts already, hearing them again just made them resonate in my head better. I found myself nodding as I recognized how he describe some of the success barriers we have to tear down to improve and also nodding in a knowing way to some of the concepts as I know they've helped me get better results.

I felt inspired to really push myself to improve. I'm almost always in beast mode (meaning approaching without hesitation) at the club, but I've created an artificial barrier in my head when it comes to day game type situations. When we went out last night, I found I was pushing myself even harder. I even opened a set while we were waiting for the train to come to go to after hours.

Train Station shit test:
When we got up to the Fullerton platform, I saw four girls sitting around. While I normally would have wanted to open them and then said nothing, I opened them immediately. The leader girl started shit testing me right off the bat. Ironically, she tried messing with me in the one way that has never been able to stick on me, even back when I had low self esteem. I'm so grounded and chill now that even if she had tried to tool me on something that I might have had issues with more recently, it wouldn't have stuck. To use a Matrix analogy, what she did might be like some newbie trying to punch Neo. Neo could block the punch even back when he first sparring with Morpheus. That girl shit testing me would be like some newbie trying to punch the Neo from the end of the movie that realizes he's the one. She trying to punch the Neo who can block bullets and kill agents.

She basically tried to tell me I was stupid. She said something like, "You know, we're all smart girls. We're engineers."
I think I gave some generic response like, "You gain points for that." That's actually the truth though: I want a girl that's intelligent.
I forgot her exact words after this, but her tone of voice and her words basically were trying to put me in the frame of, "We're smart girls. You're stupid and not being even close to our level."

Again, this never would have stuck even back when I was a total chode. Yeah, if a professor or TA said that, it would have affected me I'm sure, but no random girl is gonna make that stick because the one strength I've always had in my book smarts.

My response to the further shit tests was I just busted out laughing. I just felt it was so ridiculous. I guess the difference between the old me and the new me is that the old me would have tried to qualify myself verbally.

Holding back from staying in set:
I was opening great at times. I remember opening this redhead 2-set and then the patting the seat next to her for me to sit down after about two sentences. I screwed this set up by getting frustrated that I had two wings nearby that weren't coming in. I knew afterward that I was being dumb and using that as an excuse. 2j and Trojan- had opened a set, but I couldn't see that. I thought they were just BSing with each other like they sometimes do instead of coming in. I didn't need their help. I wanted it because it makes things easier but I know how to run a 2-set. I should have just kept talking to the set. I sent one text to 2j which was fine. Where I lost the set is that I paused the conversation again and went to text Trojan- and their buying temp dropped enough to lose them.

The other problem we had early on was just bad luck with the girls 2j and I were clicking. I remember two different 2-sets where I had the one girl massively hooked but I could hear 2j's girl didn't like him. I remember at Kendall's I started to hear this girl starting to say, "This is girls night out. I'm trying to just talk to my friend." What I should have done was number close right there, or grabbed the friends attention and plowed her with material to stabilize the set. Instead, I just kept talking to my girl knowing that the friend was about to pull her away.

I can't blame 2j. That sometimes is just the way it is: not all girls are gonna like you or your wing(s). I went into a 3-set that 2j and Trojan- were working later on. I had the 3rd girl hooked but then I got busted out. I think that was the set where I brought up my cats and she hated cats, yet I kept talking about them. As I wing, I should have just changed the subject and just tried to talk friend-to-friend to hold her attention. Instead, I was in my normal set mode. Sometimes, I'll just keep talking about the cat because I love my cats and if she hates cat it turns me off anyway and I don't mind if the set ends. Another time, 2j and I were working a 2-set, and my girl just blew me out. Again, it happens.

Plan for tonight:
We're going to the art event and G seems like he's gonna come with which is great. I want to be in beast mode there. I usually make an approach or two at the art thing, but in beast mode, I should approach every set that I find attractive. We failed to take action with several hot girls last month. When we get to the club, I want to do more dance floor game. I also am gonna work on stopping moving sets properly. I was trying a lot of clawing moving girls last night and I realized as I was going to bed today that I was looking at their arms instead of locking and holding eye contact. I'm certain I just corrected what was screwed up with my moving set game.

More importantly, I'm going to work on staying in set while escalating and leading. Often I get too addicted to just opening and having fun when I should be working on the most efficient way to SNL or create a solid phone number set. I need to open well, figure out her logistics to see if pulling is possible, and if it is, I have to move her around the club and escalate and then try to pull.

I know you, from the lair...

2011-10-14T12:42:00.000-07:00

There are two PUA lairs in the Chicago area. I should actually join one as both groups organize free PUA talks throughout the year. While I'm sure the talks are not as polished as the RSD free tour, I'm equally sure that they have inspirational value. That being said, I probably have avoided joining because Herschey used to invite these guys he met through the lair. The guys he invited out were all guys that stood around and did nothing. 2j says that many of the lair guys are creepy. Of course, there are cool guys in the lair as well. Occasionally, with Herschey in the past, we've run into some of the guys randomly and I've met 2-3 really cool guys.

Yesterday, I had a reminder experience about the creep factor of lair guys. 2j and I were out sarging in Lincoln Park. 2j said there was a lair event out, and of course so were a bunch of people from the RSD free tour, and we actually saw the Tyler boot camp out as well. I opened this 2-set on the dance floor using pure dance floor moves. The one girl seemed into me, but the other girl busted me out. Some dude saw me and he stopped me as I walked by.

Guy: (Some gibberish I couldn't hear.)
Me: Huh?
Guy: I know you.
Me: ?
Guy: I know you from lair.
Me: I was at the RSD free tour.
Guy: No the lair.
Me: (2j was next to me so I figured this guy might have recognized 2j). I'm not in the lair, but he is. This is 2j.

2j talked to him for a few seconds. 2j immediately told me how weird and creepy the guy was. He said he didn't know him and also that the guy said he wanted to watch follow us and watch us sarge.

On the one hand, I sympathize with chodes/AFC's as I was a massive one myself. I always truthfully say that I often started at a level well below many of these awkward newbies that I know or have met. This was just a reminder of why I've been avoiding the lair. I know the guy just wanted to find wings or improve his game, but as this point I'm not gonna waste my time. I have great wings already and I don't feel the desire to train up someone unless I think they are cool or offer some sort of value. This guy just felt like a value sucking leech.

The solution, of course, is that I should just join the lair and go with 2j to the events and just blow off all the creepers.

Tyler actually made a good free tour post about lairs. Below is his video "Tyler Dishes Dirt on PUA Lairs." He explains what a newbie should do if he wants to meet the best people in the lairs.

Positivity is back despite blowouts on hard mode

2011-10-13T02:34:00.000-07:00

We dropped off Jeffy, and then 2j, Jeffy's assistant (I forgot his screen name), and I went out to Crescendo and Spy Bar. I paid the price for not having gone out since Saturday. I didn't feel any approach anxiety and I opened the first set that we came upon. I just wasn't completely in the zone, but it didn't stop me from trying.

Hitting those places with real warm up or momentum was like jumping right into an NFL playoff game with the regular season. I guess it would be like playing one game before the playoff game. I had a Day2 with this girl I met back in April. I don't even know if it counts as a Day 2. We're just friends and I don't even really want more than that and I don't think she does either. It was her birthday party that 2j and I stopped by a few weeks ago. Thanks to her, I started the night drinking free Amstel Lights at this happy hour event. I had to limit myself since I knew I was picking up Jeffy afterward. I planned this last minute and ended up taking the train so I wouldn't deal with traffic. I met up with 2j on the train to my car and picked up Jeffy.

When Crescendo got busy, there were several hot girls there. The place was rough. It's so much easier to open and hook sets in Lincoln Park. 2j hooked this drunk girl early on. She happened to be a friend of this Indian girl that I must have seen out about 20 times this summer. This is the moody Indian girl who one week was friendly to me in line at Sound Bar. The next week, she told me to fuck off when I opened her in Sound Bar. The funny thing is I wasn't even trying to sarge her at the time. I was just being friendly. Then, she was cool with me two weeks later.

My best set of this night was this Russian redhead. I managed to stop her as she was walking by. I was all up on her and talked to her for about 5 minutes before she said she had to find her friends. I suppose I should have just plowed with more material when she said that but I didn't do so at the time.

I had this amusing interaction with this tall redhead at Spy Bar. 2j pointed her out to me as he knows I like them. I opened her and was talking briefly and then she said, "Are you gonna buy us a bottle?" I laughed and said, "No, you need to ask one of these dudes to buy you a bottle and share it with me." I laugh because I'm the last person that I would buy her a bottle and I also chuckle because you know at least one fool has chumped out and done that for her in the past.

We ended the night on Division Street. We were in this one bar where several girls were dancing on this couch area. I saw a girl squatting on the chair. I opened her by saying, "Look at you, you either have to sit down or stand up and dance. There's no, half-assing like that. Chose one." She giggled and then she said, "Okay, I'll dance for you." While I opened it, it made it hard to do anything more. I thought about how Manwhore has said that when girls are dancing up like that, he goes up to them and just starts talking to them as they are dancing. I forced myself to stay and dance in front of her. I had her high five me but then I felt awkward and walked away. I know that the move is to just stay with it. I could have kept yelling shit to her as she was dancing and then tried to pull her down later on.

Tonight was a good warm up for this weekend. I know I'm gonna get pumped up from the Free Tour. Seeing the boot camp will also motivate me like it did in April. Most importantly, my shitty mood from Saturday is gone and my positivity has returned. Even though my best set was merely a 5 minutes hook, I really enjoyed my evening. I used to always have fun until I fell into that trap of having way too high expectations for myself.

Spent a car ride with Jeffy/Jlaix

2011-10-13T02:20:00.000-07:00

I suppose this deserves it's own post. 2j and I picked up Jeffy and his assistant at the airport. 2j is hosting the assistant and they needed a ride so 2j asked me if I could do it. I live by the airport anyway and always go down to the city to sarge with 2j so it was on the way. Besides, I figured it would be cool to spend some time with one of the big RSD guys.

I didn't bombard him with questions like some guys would do. I know so much theory that I actually don't have any specific questions that can help me. I have to improve by doing more field work, leading more, pushing my comfort levels, and gaining reference experiences and calibration from all that. If I can't figure out how to analyze what happened (and that happens mostly with late game/pulling situations), I ask 2j or post on the forums. Even if I had a ton of questions, I wouldn't have bothered him with them. So guys treat these PUA guys like just objects who can dispense pickup knowledge.

It actually surprised me that the conversation turned towards game for a bit. I figured that they'd want a break from game since they are gonna have a full weekend of free tour, boot camp, hot seat, etc. I suppose it's like when I've hung out with poker people. I'd naturally start talking about poker and I suppose it's natural that PUA's end up talking about some aspect of sarging. We all got into this because we love women and sarging, after all.

Jeffy is about what I expected. What you see on video is basically what you get. Keep in mind that I only spent a 20 minute car ride with him. I didn't get to see the man in action, but I'm sure I'll see them out in the field at some point. I ran into the boot camp back in April as well and I know on Thursdays that they go to where we normally go out.

The one thing I will say is that you realize he's just a normal guy that just happens to have put a lot of field work into sarging and has turned into a master PUA and PUA guru. Tyler has always said that they are just regular guys who put hard work to become good at what they do.

Of course, out in the field, they are larger than life. They are getting success with women that I always dreamed about. Realizing that they are regular guys does make you realize that with enough work, we can all improve as well. I don't expect to get to their level, but I know I can surpass where I am. Just this year, I've progressed so much and I've been a part of crazy adventures that I never would have imagine possible.

Let me close by saying it's funny how life works out. It's funny how I wound up in a set of circumstances that resulted in me spending a car ride with Jeffy. It's cool how Jeffy, while a normal cool guy as I described above, is also the author of "Get Laid or Die Trying" (which I really will buy at some point), the RSD guru, and the guy who's living the PUA lifestyle that we all would like to have. So yeah, Jeffy ending up being in my car for a ride into the city is cool.

Math girl: LTR material? & Community conditioning

2011-10-12T00:23:00.000-07:00

I had that initial Day 2 with Math girl that I blogged about Sept 30. I went on a Day 3 that went great on Thursday and we hung out again Monday night. I feel weird writing a detailed report about her probably because I do actually like her.

Sometimes, I'm wondering what I'm gonna say on Day 2's, on the phone or through text. That happened when I first text her, but after that, it was like we just clicked. I can't even remember a moment when we've hung out in person and I've felt my mind trying to think of what to say, or trying to fill some void in the conversation. We just feel really at ease talking to each other.

Things are moving slower than I usually expect and part of me was frustrated with that initially. One reason, is that I feared she was gonna be like my first girlfriend. I was worried she didn't like sex, but the other night, we had a good talk that cleared things up. 2j's theory after the Day2 was that Math girl really liked me and when girls do that, they often want to make you wait. Sometimes they do this because they fear that if they hook up too quickly, they'll lose you. They also worry if you really like them or if just want to have sex them. I suspected I might have been dealing with some of these reasons so I tried to make her comfortable by telling her that I didn't just want this to be a one night thing. (I'll note that's a LMR tactic, but I really did feel that way. As I've said before, I practice the light side of the game. I don't like to lie and say something like that to help bust LMR if I don't really feel it.) It turns out she's worried about getting too attached. She's afraid things might break off at the wrong time and she'll end up screwing up her grades (and in this case, it would mean screwing up her future job prospects and career. She's not in college anymore, so this is different.)

2j pointed out too that if things are progressing, that I shouldn't be worrying about it anyway. Hearing her reasoning finally put me fully at ease with how things are going. Today, I also thought about Style's time line at the end of "The Game." Sometimes, you can or have to take things slower.

Community Conditioning?:
I feel like I've broken through much of social conditioning when it comes to sarging and relationship. At the same time, I wonder if I've taken on community conditioning. I told 2j that I'm probably just being stupid. I let community thinking say that if I don't hook up by tne end of a Day2 or Day3 or whatever, then I'm a chump.

When 2j and I were talking today, I actually dug into my memory. I thought about my old AFC days. This situation is no where near a chode type situation. Back then, I'd buy multiple dinners for girls, and at times even over a period of months, and get shit. Sometimes I got a kiss and something I didn't get anything at all. Math girl has always wanted to pay for herself at the beginning and things have progressed pretty far so clearly this situation is way different.

What's the alternative?:
2j made a final great point. He said, "What's the alternative?" The answer would be to say, "Peace out" because we haven't had sex and not see her again. That's just dumb. I like this girl and feel a connection to her. I haven't felt this way in a long time. Sex is great and all, but what I have here is more rare than sex. Besides, when you have a real connection with someone, sex is inevitable. I don't need to rush it.

To make the point to myself, I picture pulling a hottie from the Thursday Sound Bar scene. Yeah, I'd love to bang one those girls. If I did, and she had a shit personality, it would be fun, but I would just be left with emptiness at the end. It would help me with entitlement issues, but it wouldn't give me what my interactions with Math girl have given me thus far.

Math girl is a really cool, smart woman, and I'm gonna continue seeing her. I no longer feel the need to rush things on some community schedule. On the other hand, I'm not gonna do what JW did and commit to her at such an early point. If I embraced the dark side of the game, I probably could have sped things along if I had told her what JW told his girl. I could have told her that I was looking for a serious girlfriend and told her I really liked her, etc. I have told her that I like her, but I also told her that I'm still on a journey and I don't want to get married for a long time. I'll continue sarging, but my mind often drifts into thought about Math girl. I suspect sarging is gonna get better as I'll be less outcome oriented and just more relaxed in field.

Wed & Sat speed reports & Second opportunities

2011-10-11T23:53:00.000-07:00

I haven't been writing my daily field reports. I think part of it was I just needed a break from all of this: I mean writing field reports and sarging in general. 2j has also been less enthusiastic about going out and I wonder part of the reason is that transferring to me.

Part of my frustration is that I haven't been going out as much. My game definitely gets better from building momentum from going out a ton. I'd then go out after several days off and then somehow expect that I'd do as well as when I was going out every day. I also started to have too high expectations for the night. Wednesday, I was wasted and I was getting poor results. I finally hooked a set that was my type: she was average looking but she was really smart. Instead of sticking it through, I just ejected.

Part of me wanted something magical or crazy to happen. Despite things turning out badly with that theatrics chick, the night was exciting. In the process of trying to duplicate those results in a shit state, I just became frustrated.

This was apparent Saturday. Thursday night, I had a Day 2 with "Math girl." While that went well, I didn't do any cold approach. Friday, I didn't go out because I spent time with my mother the whole afternoon and evening and had gotten very little sleep Thursday night.

2j and I met up in Wrigelyville. I went to Clarke's for the $2 drafts. I had 2 beers which helped me feel better. I had a good night hanging out with my mom Friday, but Saturday, her nagging put me into a horrible mood. I was in such a bad mood that even an 8 mile run didn't fix it.

Despite my mood and 2j not opening despite me pushing him, I ended up opening these two cute girls that were seated at the bar next to me. I had seen them when I walked in initially. I didn't open them and I even text 2j asking him to open them when he came in. Finally, about ten minutes after he arrive, I went to the bathroom and forced myself to open the set. It actually went well. We found out the girls were two British girl on holiday (I'll use their term instead of the American term "vacation") and were only in town for two days.

Asking for the venue change:
My girl ended up asking us what places were good in the area and where "Wrigelyville" actually was. I told her about Barleycorn. Even though I knew the move, I didn't do the proper thing and try to venue change them. Later, the girls were getting ready to leave. I again mentioned Barleycorn. I was hoping 2j would give me some help and push for the venue change. He later said he was really out of his game, especially because he had started a sober gaming challenge and had gotten too used to warming up by drinking. The girls ended up leaving, and then I lamented how we could have venue change the set.

Groundhog day?:
An amazing thing happened: when we left the place, we saw the girls walking on the sidewalk. I pointed them out when I saw them in the distance walking towards us and said, "Look at this, we actually have been given the chance to redeem ourselves. Let's push this venue change."

2j actually pulled through this time. I said, "Hey, it's you guys again." 2j said, "Are you lost?"

They asked again where Wrigleyville was, and 2j said, "We'll show you."

We started walking up Sheffield. I started just doing my tour guide mode. I told them stories and fact about the city and about where we were going. For some reason, 2j was walking too fast and getting ahead of them. I kept spewing stuff for about 3 blocks and then I started to get self-conscious. I caught up to 2j and we started talking.

We suddenly turned around, and we saw the girls had stopped at the intersection behind us. 2j said that he sensed something weird with them and that's why he wasn't talking. I said, "Things might have been weird, but the move was for both of us to talk to them. They just met us and were walking with two guys they barely knew in an area they'd never been to."

I went on to say that we just needed to talk and make them comfortable and we could have gotten them to Barleycorn.

MILF?!:
I'll close by talking about this set that I debated internally. We opened some sets in Barleycorn. I saw this blonde who looked cute from a few feet away. I told 2j I was thinking about opening and he commented that they looked older. I always joke that "looking older" means the girls are probably around my age. I opened aggressively and started dancing with her.

The girl was really into me. She kept talking to me and being almost overly flirtatious. She'd whisper in my ear and let her mouth get really close to my ear. When she moved close to hear me, she made her face brush really close to my face.

I wasn't sure if I wanted to do this. She was cute, but she had this freckles on her shoulders that just made her look old. Then, she said she was here with her son and daughter and she pointed them out. This made her mid to late 40's age range. On top of that, I just felt weird dancing with the mom while the kids were there.

2j made a good point later on. He said that I could have just number closed so I didn't have to deal with that, and I could have decided whether I wanted to try to hook up with her or not. I also could have just asked, "Are you single?" She probably was divorced and wanting to party considering how she was acting towards me.

While I felt shitty at the end of Saturday, it really was a night of second chances. Later, I saw the MILF and her kids and their friends standing outside on the street. I made eye contact with her and approached her. She smiled and was all excited to see me. I just gave her a high five and continued my night but maybe I should have pursued her.

Kissing and grinding and then theatrics to get rid of me...

2011-10-01T06:01:00.000-07:00

I'll open this by saying that strangely, I developed slightly higher standards for girls I will go for and I realize now that might be a mistake. I lack experience in late game and it's preventing me from turning sets into actually pulls and sex. Part of me feels anger and frustration when I get into situations where I don't know what the right move is. I'll add that tonight I had to ponder what happened for a long time to figure out what I might have done better. I'm so used to knowing exactly where I screwed up.

At the same time, I realize that I can't beat myself up for failing in late game due to inexperience. Part of the solution is that I need to stop reading the Main RSD forums and concentrate on field reports, especially lay reports. The answer lie in learning what works and fails for others. The big part of the solution is just learning the calibration through experience. This goes back to what I opened with above: I need to try to pull any girls that are willing or seem DTF so I can learn from the experiences.

I wanna dance with her:
I started the night getting free food and drinks. My college friends win these free 2 hour bar parties from trivia. 2j was gonna meet me there but he ended up going to a lair speaker, but fortunately JW came out. JW, 2j, 2j's roommate and I went to check out Enclave. I put out this idea since I knew I didn't need the free drinks from Sound Bar tonight. We will definitely go there again as it was busy when we got there and that was before 11PM. I was wasted and I could tell 2j figured I'd be running my shitty drunken game again. I opened some girls, including this really tall girl but they went nowhere.

I spotted these two chubby blondes and told JW, "I wanna dance with her." The one I liked was a little taller than me (but she had heels on) and even though she was chubby, she had a really cute face. She was dancing crazily and I just went up to her. I don't remember the actualy opener, but I think I did the high five move that I turn into a spin. Immediately, I can tell this was on.

I ended up getting no wing help as none of the guys I were with were interested in the friend. It was okay as the friend didn't cockblock at all. I tried to give her a little attention but then I realized she was just gonna let things happen. Later, this black girl showed up and I text 2j to come wing me. He wasn't attracted to her. I thought she was cute and she had a trim body.

I didn't want to overescalate:
This was one of the dance floor sets that were just totally on. I could tell by the way she grinded on me immediately after I spun her. I used my leg stimulation move. I ran my fingers through her hair at times and I pulled gently, but firmly on her hair, which turned her on. I brushed her hair from her neck and blew into her ear. I kissed her neck and sucked on her neck. I gave her strong eye contact which she held. I kept hovering my face near her face.

When we were dancing, I began to probe how far I could push things by moving my hand near her pussy. I touch her pussy a few times and she didn't resist. I thought back to other sets and decided I didn't want to start fingering her as I was afraid I was gonna overescalate and blow out. I also had no where to pull. I had taken public transportation in so I didn't have my car. I'm pretty sure there's no private bathroom in that club and I actually didn't even know where the bathrooms were.

I should mention that I had moved her away from her friends several times. They were fine with us dancing and being all over each other, but it's a good move regardless. I should always be working to isolate from the friends.

I'm taken:
This perhaps was part of the problem of the entire night. The girl was into me, but she had a boyfriend. It's funny how girls work sometimes. I could suck on her neck, touch her pussy, etc, but she told me she had a boyfriend when I tried kissing her initially. I said, "That's cool, I'm not looking for a girlfriend. I just want to have fun." She said, "Good" and then I went back to kissing her neck. About a minute later, I got her turned on and we kissed and made out anyway.

I had number closed her at one point. I remember that one time, when I had her isolated, she said she had to find her friends. She didn't want to leave me as she asked if I would dance with her again. I told her I could just come with her.

Can I come with?
That point leads to another theme of tonight. While I want to beat myself up, I should be happy that I'm gaining confidence. Even though I knew things were on, in the past, I would have been hesitant to go with her to find the friends. Later, I wouldn't have asked if I could go with her to the next bar. It's a good move to just ask girls if you can come along.

The girls planned to go to a bar in Lincoln Park where they knew a bartender. I went with them. I was holding the girls hand most of the time that we left Enclave. This including walking to the train. On the train, she sat next to me. When we got off, we held her hand again.

At the second bar, there wasn't much dancing. The dance floor area was closed off as the bar was slow. My girl wanted to play pool and paid for a game. I was playing but I hate pool and suck at it, so I told the black girl to play for me. The bar ended up closing and the guy they knew wanted to venue change them all to an after hours place.

Let's go have food at your place:
I'm not a total idiot. The guy was taking forever with the venue change. I also knew that going another 2 hours at after hours wasn't the best plan. I had a problem, though, because the two blondes were roommates. They had all mentioned going home while the bartender guy was dragging. I told my girl, "We should go back to your place and grab some food." She said, "You're not coming back to my place."

I think the move was okay, but I also knew at the time that her buying temperature had dropped. It might have been a good move, but I needed to pump her state up. It was hard because we were surrounded by her two girl friends, and the orbiter guy was hovering around too. Since it's cold out too, there weren't that many people standing on the sidewalk either so it's not like I could have had mini isolation behind a pack of people outside.

I told you I had a boyfriend:
I hate to admit that I turned into quiet mode on the walk to the after hours bar. The orbiter guy was cool to me, but he aggravated me a little bit. He was talking shit to random people we walked past. Later, in the bar, two guys tried opened the black girl and the roommate. They got busted out. As they were walking away, the bartender dude was coming back and he laughed at them and said, "Good try (sarcastically)."

Again, he treated me fine, but I could see he was the kind of orbiter that I hate when I open mixed sets. In a way, I felt like he was picking on the weak. The two guys were brave to open and had gotten busted out and he had to dig the knife into them. I know that if I were in a good state, and I had been them, I would have tooled him and made him look stupid.

Other than that, the guy and his friend were cool. I got into quiet mode for some reason. I should add that about three storefronts before we got to the after hours place, my girl dropped my hand. In the bar she said, "I told you I had a boyfriend." I said my line about how, "I just wanted to have fun."

That's a true statement. I was trying to create a fun time for both of us. I wanted to hook up and I think she would have enjoyed it too. I did not want to steal her from her boyfriend. I'd want her to stay with him.

Anyway, she had said that perhaps because I wasn't talking enough and also because she was losing buying temp.

Unbelievable make out theatrics:
I tried talking to her. I used some of my usual stuff to hold a girls attention. Where I screwed up is I tried several times to stroke her arm. I stopped that when I saw she wasn't responding. (I had text 2j that I knew I was losing her and he told me to try to raise her buying temp again the same way I did originally. I couldn't do that as there was no edancing in this bar). The big theatrics came when I tried to isolate her to the basketball machine, "Let's go play that basketball game," I said.

She replied, "Why don't you go play the basketball game with her? (point to the black girl." In retrospect, I should have went and played it with her. Instead, I gave her this incredulous look as I knew she was blowing me off with that line. Then I just sat there. Next, she started whispering to her girlfriends. I knew she was talking about me. Sometimes, I know I'm being paranoid, but I could tell this time. She kept looking at me while whispering, plus she had never whispered to them the entire night.

I should have got up and walk around at this point. I just kept sitting there. Then, she starts whiserping to the orbiter. Suddenly, she gets my attention by tapping me and says, "Watch this!" Then, she initiated a long make out with the orbiter.

I actually laughed. Her two girlfriends were looking at her and the black girl said, "WTF is that?" I said, "She putting on that show just for me." Then she turned to me and said, "That means it's time for you to go."

She figured I was gonna be deflated. I sat there for two minutes. I knew it was just a big fucking show for me. From going out so much, I knew the guy was just an orbiter. I knew she had lost buying temperature and she felt awkward having me there.

I'll sarge this fucking bar:
Tim calls it the "fury." My competitive side really kicks me into gear. I remember how I felt when I saw that bootcamp in April walk in. I suddenly wanted to turn up my game. It's the same way I felt when that lame ass instructor guy tried to steal a tall Spanish girl from me. If I could somehow game the way I do when I feel this way, I'd be unstoppable. What went through my head was something like this, "Did you just seriously orchestrate that BS for me? Yeah, I probably fucked this up at some point and I was too quiet. I know you wanted me and I wanted this to happen. At the same time, do you think I can't get any other girls? I left my wing and hung out with you when I could have met even hotter girls at Enclave."

I went and tried to sarge some other girls but the place didn't have many sets. Every girl I saw was with some guys. Part of me thinks I should have left the group and just started working the room. That would have got me out of that passive state I was in when we walked into the bar. The group I hooked ended up being these 3 siblings. I could tell the one girl was attracted to me, but she ended up being married. The brother was cool. At the end, I found out the third girl was her sister. Perhaps, I should have tried to sarge her more, but they ended up leaving, and at the time, I was just happy to be in another set away from my original girl.

I talked to some guys and as I was about to go back in front by the original girl to get my coat, I saw her walk by. I got her attention and she said, "Oh hey." I grabbed her hand and said, "You know, all the theatrics weren't necessary." She walked in to the bathroom. I went by the guy. He was all drunk. I told him, "Thanks for taking me here. This is a cool place. Oh, and tell her, all the theatrics weren't necessary." I stood by him for about ten seconds. He was so drunk that he dozed off for a second. I tapped him cause I was gonna leave, and he woke up from his daze and dropped his beer.

Free cover and beer:
I can't complain about the orbiter guys other than what I said above. They treated me fine and I even got comps from them. When we got to the place, the bouncer said it was $5 cover. The roommate began to pull out money and the orbiter bartender said, "I got their cover." The girls walked in, and I just walked in as well. I wasn't gonna pay to get in that place. I used to feel bad about taking advantage, but now I don't. A few minutes in, my girl told the bartender orbiter's friend to buy the black girl a beer. He ended up going to the bar and buying a bunch of beers. I gave token resistance to the beer, but as soon as they insisted after that (which I expected), I took the free beer.

The good & the bad: an analysis:
I should be happy that I had a girl hooked this strongly. Yeah, she wasn't hot, but again, I believe in the binary scale. Plus, I really did think she had a cute face and she's blonde with pale skin which I like. I learned from overescalation in the past, and early on, I maintained her buying temperature. I actually had the confidence to push for going with the venue change and to stay with her at Enclave. There have been too many times when I just lost confidence and assumed the girl didn't want me. This time, early on, I assumed it was on and proceeded.

What was bad is that I got quiet during the walk to the after hours bar. If I find myself in this situation again, I know I can just start opening random people at the bar on the way to the bathroom and get myself into a talkative mood again.
My failure to pull often has been caused by failing to lead. I need to talk things over with 2j, but after thinking about this the like two hour train & bus ride, plus 3 mile walk to get home, I have two ideas.

How I could have lead:
If I had been in the right venues, I could have tried a bathroom pull or car pull. To do that, I could have got her into a corner and started to make out with her and finger her and then just tried the pull. I also could have really pumped her state and tried to get her to go to her place. She wanted to stay by the friends. If I had said, "Let's go to your place" she would have objected and said she had to stay with her friends. I would have needed to just blow that objection off. I'm thinking maybe I could have been forward with what I wanted.

I'm thinking, I could have pumped her state and just said, "Let's go to your place." She probably would have brought up the boyfriend. I'm thinking I could have said, "I don't want you to leave him. You guys should be together. I just want to be your boyfriend tonight. No one has to know. Let's go."

If I had to go to the second bar, I think I should have tried to seed the pull there. I would have liked to keep her buying temp up, but it didn't help that the place was slow with no dance floor.

When we were standing around waiting for the bartender orbiter, maybe I could have been aggressive and lead her to a cab. I'm not sure.

Pushing too hard to go to her place but good Day 2

2011-09-30T04:24:00.000-07:00

I will call this girl "Math girl" for reasons that will only make sense to me. I met her at Vinny's favorite place that Friday that I had the 3 number closes. I followed through on my plan to text my numbers from that weekend. I sent texts Friday night with the "Hope you got home safe" text and then I waiting till Sunday and Monday to follow up.

Somehow, I managed to do the right things with Math girl. 2j explained how he tries to build attraction through flirting, misinterpretation, and other means. I have a hard time making flirty texts, but I somehow managed to do it with one of her texts. I gave a flirty response that also made her envision us in a sexual situation and it worked as she typed and "LOL" and played along with it. Then I switched gears a bit and text some regular conversation before deciding to suggest we meet this week. She was about to go to bed but she told me she's usually busy during the week but has free time during the weekend.

I knew it was on when I didn't text her Tuesday. I was busy Wednesday and my Polish friend wanted to hang out with me for my birthday. We had lunch and then went to see a movie. When I came out of the movie, I saw I had a text from Math girl. I knew that was a good sign as at this early stage, girls don't often initiate texts. Many girls will respond and then I can occasionally set up a meet. When girls are texting me out of the blue, I know it's on.

We ended up setting up a meet for Thursday night.

I don't want this to be a one night thing:
That's a line I remember from when I first starting doing pickup. Girls often are afraid you'll disappear after you hook up with them, so saying that is a good way to make them more comfortable about hooking up with you. As Style said, there are light and dark sides of the game. Coming form the dark side, you say stuff like that and use other techniques so you can fuck a girl. I don't like to do that. I would only say that if I wanted more than just a SNL.

Math girl has been different than many of the girls I met this summer, at least thus far. We had great conversation from the beginning. I'm sure it helps that I was way more relaxed that my last day two, but it also helps that we seem to be compatible. I have cool stories, ect, but she kept up her end of the conversation. I enjoyed hearing her opinions on things and hearing her stories about her life.

When I told her later that I didn't want this to be a one night thing, I meant it.

Pushing too hard for the pull:
I don't want to go into the details of the night too much. We met for margaritas. We stayed there a long time and at no point was I getting the feeling that she wanted to leave. It was obvious we both wanted to keep the night going. I wanted to move things along so I suggested going for a walk. We stopped at this bar that was by the train and had a drink. We talked for a long time there and then I tried to go back to her place.

I told her we would just there and hang out. I suggested grabbing some liquor nearby. She initially agreed to the idea but then while waiting for the train and on the train ride, she changed her mind. When we got to her stop, she said we'd go to a bar near there as she wasn't ready to let me come home with her.

I think I kept pushing as I really knew part of her wanted it to happen. She had basically agreed for a moment to let me come over.

I think she couldn't fool herself. In her head, she had decided if she let me come over, she was going to have sex with me. Most girls figure that's what will happen, but they'll focus on the BS reason for going there and tell themselves the sex just happened. They will let it happen that way, but Math girl wanted to decide she was gonna have sex with me right then at the bar before she'd let me come over and she couldn't do it.

Again, she was definitely torn about it. She make comments about me sleeping over. She even said she had to get up early but she kept wanting to hang out. We probably could have hung out even longer but in the end I wanted to go. I wanted her to get some rest anyway instead of us just cuddling in the bar all night.

When to burn the set to the ground:
I decided near the end that I was done pushing for it. I felt like I was getting annoying. I also decided that I was happy with the evening. We were into each other, we had kissed multiple times. We were sitting on a couch in the bar in embrace the whole last hour. She made it clear she wanted to see me again and even hinted that we might hook up next week.

2j reminded me that sometimes you should burn sets to the ground. It's when a girl is leaving the next day or has a boyfriend. In this situation, he would have stopped pushing for it this night. He said it's a calibration issue; he's right, I just need more experience. I knew enough to stop at one point and while I should have stopped sooner, I don't think I ruined it.

She likes me too much:
It's funny how that works. This girl is really into me and that's part of why she wants to take things slow. When I first started pickup, I always wanted to create serious connection and attraction but it's detrimental to the quick lay. 2j reminded me that it might take longer to hook up with girls when you're in this situation, but usually the sex will be better when it happens.

Anyways, I focused on pulling the whole summer. It's fine to change things up and possibly develop some sort of LTR or MLTR. I had a great time tonight. I miss having awesome conversation and having a connection with a girl. I'd like to cuddle with her and sleepover there.

Of course, a same night lay is fun too. I can see how eventually, finding emotional connections with girls is way more valuable than quick sex. My skill level isn't quite there, but I can see the path where SNL's and pull will be easy. I can see how it will always be hard to find a girl that has some of the other qualities that I look for in a girl such as intelligence, someone I can have deep conversations with or who shares my world view.

Slow updates & 9/23 FR: Persitence can feel creepy & work too

2011-09-30T03:54:00.000-07:00

I've been less enthusiastic about writing daily reports. I suppose part of that was my building frustration last week. Saturday and Tuesday were basically nights where I felt at the time that I didn't really learn anything. It felt like a waste of time, but I do believe that we grow from each night out so I know that was just negative feelings at the time. Another part of my problem is that I have been too focused on pickup this summer. I finally got to put in some serious effort into this, but my mind has been wanting to balance my life and I can finally say that I began that process this week.

Last Week's FR:
I mentioned in my Saturday report that I was gonna make a report about Friday. I wasn't going to bother to do so after I had neglected to write it last weekend, but it's relevant to the Day 2 I had Thursday night.

I had said that I was gonna focus more on taking numbers. I explained that the whole summer I wanted to work on pulling so I took few numbers. 2j showed me through his experiences that Day 2's are a good resource.

Escalated too quickly:
There was this set that 2j pointed out to me. I opened this black girl on the dance floor and immediately she was grinding me enthusiastically. I felt like I ended up escalating too fast as she ended up going to the bathroom. Later, I saw her with her friend and I stopped her again. She was into me, so maybe she really did have to go to the bathroom.

This time I escalated even faster and further even though my mind was telling me I was probably screwing it up and should work on isolating her and building verbal rapport instead. I was stimulating her pussy with my leg and I kissed her. I could tell I was overescalating and sure enough, just as I was pondering trying to move her for some verbal game, she went over to her friend.

2j had the friend hooked, so I was able to open my girl again. My girl was drunk. I realized it even more when I came up this time. I tried for the number close. She gave it to me but it ended up not being a valid number. She either screwed up entering it, which is possible, as she was drunk, or I had overescalated and/or she just didn't feel rapport with me since we never got to talk.

Number close 2:
This is the one that counted. We ran into Vinny and his friend who was visiting from out of town at Vinny's favorite place. Vinny was having a good time with this set. Trojan- and I opened the other girls. I hooked this brunette and was grinding with her. In retrospect, I should have stayed with her. I lost her briefly as she moved away with her other friend (not the one with Vinny). The other girl had blown out Trojan- and mine left with her. It had been on, and I should have gone back.

After that set, I saw this black girl, and of course, I decided to open her as I'm into them right now. This girl ended up being cool. I had opened her right around closing so the lights came on as we were still talking. I took the number close and as I went on a Day 2 with her. That report is coming up next.

Persistence can feel creepy but it can work too:
When we were working street sets, 2j and I would sometimes fail to stop the girls as they were walking by us. He'd tell me that the move is to walk with them and keep plowing. I never liked it because it has always felt creepy to me even thought I know it's the right way to do it.

Trojan- and I were walking by Crescendo when this 2-set walked by me. I tried to stop them by they walked by. Trojan- decided he wanted the set and kept walking by them. I stopped for the reasons I wrote in the last paragraph. I actually thought he was busting out but then I saw his target was still talking to him by her driver side door.

The friend was sitting in the passenger seat with the door open. I could tell she was getting bored. I came in and started talking to her. She had yelled something to her friend like, "Let's go." Trojan- had his target really hooked and was all up on her. I said, "Let them be. They look good together."

I just kept talking and did a little plowing. I was just trying to wing and not necessarily trying to pick her up. Sometimes, that's when your game can be best. Just with my eye contact and conversation skills, she started to get attracted to me. I remember her complimenting me and telling me that she can tell I'm smart.

A few minutes later, Trojan's girl got in the car. I knew I had to do something so I brought in the margarita bit. I had mentioned margaritas earlier. This time, I said, "We should get margaritas." She said, "It's too late, we're going home." I said, "It's closed now anyway. I mean some other time." She said, "I can give you my number."

Passing shit tests easily:
I gave her my phone. When you type in a number and then save it as a new contact, the number still stays on the screen unless you hit the end button. She opened my phone and saw the number. She said, "Is that a girl who's phone number you just got tonight? I want to know if you a poker 'player' (she said it to mean she was asking if I'm a player)."

I replied, "Yeah, a girl gave me her number. Just be confident in yourself and you'll do fine."

That was a frame control statement. She was trying to frame this as, "I'm not sure if I want to give you my number because you might be some player." I framed it as her saying, "I'm not sure if I want to give you my number because you might not call me since you got this other girl's number and I'm not sure if I'm better than her."

She put her number in and then she wanted to make sure I'd contact her. It was from an area code that's not in Chicago land area. As she was typing it in, she said, "I'm from X. It's my real number, I swear."

I text with her a bit this week. She works a lot and I got short responses like, "I just got off work." or "I'm at work."

I'll try to text her more and make something happen, but the 2nd number close was way better.

Tues frustration due to too high expectations

2011-09-30T03:32:00.000-07:00

2j called it Tuesday when I was ranting during the car ride home that it sounded like my frustration had been building over the last few sessions. There were some other pressures that probably influenced my frustration, but a big part of it was I made too high expectations for the evening. The venues have been slower, especially on weekends due to summer being over. Joe's on Weed Street is a lot slower, especially early on. It gets busy around midnight, but we usually run through the sets by there since we force ourselves to get there by 9pm for the discounted cover.

The night wasn't horrible. We opened a bunch of sets. The sets didn't really go anywhere. There were one or two sets where we maybe should have plowed a bit longer. We found it ironic that Vinny, the natural, was the one staying in sets and we were ejected.

We actually had a good discussion concerning plowing. I remember the old PUA adage of staying in sets until the girl leaves or tells you to go away. I've been struggling with that concept because I feel like yes, you should plow, especially early on, but many times sets don't feel like they are going anywhere and we'll leave.

On Friday, I saw a post on rsdnation about this very subject which shed some light on I how should calibrate it. What I wrote above is for newbies. Newbies often come with limiting beliefs so forcing themselves to plow teaches that you can plow, it teaches you to become comfortable dealing with social pressure, and it gives you more experience being in set. For more advanced guys, Tyler made a post that said, "When that anime sparkle in her eyes is gone, that's when you should back off."

It turns out that this is what we've been doing. I will admit that sometimes we eject too soon and I will continue to work on not doing that. When a set isn't going anywhere and my calibration is telling me that strongly, I should leave the set.

Anger leads to motivation

2011-09-25T03:20:00.000-07:00

I'm a bit of a dork. I've been watching Star Wars as the whole series just came out on blue ray. The Jedi say that anger leads to the dark side. I find that anger motivates me. I remember when I lost that girl to some guys at Sangria back in April. I got so motivated to learn to deal with AMOG's. I put myself in some uncomfortable situations and I really refined my skills.

This time, I'm angry about how I conducted myself Saturday. In this game of sarging, the worst feeling is "What if?" I'm sure I've mentioned the old sports cliche before that I feel applies to sarging, "It doesn't matter if you win or lose, it's how you played the game."

I love this clip from "We Are Marshall." Unfortunately, embedding is disabled so I can only show the link:
http://youtu.be/IEL8PYu4RR4

Lay it on the line until the final whistle blows, and if you do that... if you that... you cannot lose. We may behind on the scoreboard at the end of the game, but if you play like that, we cannot be defeated.

If I put my best effort in, and I don't get the girl or I get rejected, then I can be happy with myself. Tonight, I'm left wondering what might have been. That blonde was cute and my type. I had her hooked. She had just moved to Chicago. That means she's more likely to be open to coming out with me. She doesn't know the city that well so I offer value with all the restaurants, clubs, deals, etc that I know. She's single and just starting over. I thought that guy might have been with her, but it became obvious at the end that he was just an orbiter that made things uncomfortable trying to kiss her.

I could have had a good time with her if I just put in the full effort. If I had and I got rejected, again, that would have been fine.

I'll remember this the next time I'm choding around or giving a half effort. I feel like I will be motivated when I go out on Tuesday.

As I said, anger fuels me. I get motivated and I should take that from this crappy night and do better.

Sat: Obliterated at Euro Club & Self-doubt

2011-09-25T01:53:00.000-07:00

I don't really want to write this report. I didn't even write a Friday report and that was a decent night. If I were a QB, tonight could be described as one of those multiple interception nights where you just got sacked and hit nonstop. To top things off, the two good drives that could have been scores were held back by self-doubt.

A bunch of us met up to watch the Rampage-Jones fight and to celebrate my birthday which is next week. 2j and I then went to the club downstairs which is an Eastern European club. I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said all the girls in the place were hot. It was an intimidating place to warm up. There was only one set when we walked in and we stalled and stalled. A good lesson here is that it reminds me never to stall like that. I felt better after I finally forced myself to open and I think the stalling, more than anything, created a bad head space.

The crazy responses I got didn't help. I knew I was out of state and still warming up, but I got some really strange responses. I'm used to getting blown out, but these girls weren't ready to be approached this early or something. Two girls jumped backed when I opened them. Thinking back, I should have joked about it and moved back a bit to ease them. 2j explained that since it was early, everyone was still sober and no one looked like they were having fun. We were the only guys approaching so the girls weren't ready for it. I said that if we were to do that club again, I think we'd talk to guys at first and just got out on the dance floor. After establishing ourselves as party guys, we'd bring the party to the sets.

Tall blonde:
The best set was this tall blonde I opened in Lion Head. I actually survived the horrible sets at the euro club and did okay initially at Lion Head. I hooked this blonde and she seemed like a promising lead as she had just moved to Chicago two weeks ago. We were having a good conversation and suddenly this guy she knew came and pulled her to the bar. I'll give him credit for his method: he just came up, grabbed her and said, "Let's get shots."

I actually planned to open her again and I opened some sets while waiting. I think the move was to try to isolate her upstairs to the dance floor. It probably wouldn't have worked, but I was thinking about moving her when the guy did that.

Here is where the night started to go downhill.

Self-doubt:
I opened several other sets and 1-2 were decent. I just didn't feel confident today for whatever reason. My stomach hurt a bit and I felt tired and thirsty, but I should be able to deal with that. The guy moved my girl and this other blonde upstairs. I saw them dancing, and I actually saw the guy try to kiss her. I think he was a friend that made things awkward because she didn't like the kiss. She turned her cheek and it looked awkward. He had put his arm around her earlier downstairs but when I saw them later in the night, they were sitting next to each other with the group of friends but the chairs were farther apart.

Ordinarily, I'd have confidently opened her again. I ended up stalling and opening sets around her. I opened this blonde who was incoherent and looked like she was about to fall asleep on her table. As I'm talking, the tall blonde comes by. She was calling out to her friend. I asked if it was the drunk girl and she pointed to some girl at the bar.

I give myself some credit for plowing here. I pretending like I hadn't seen her upstairs. I said, "Hey, it's you. You're still down here? You should come upstairs."

It's funny what I do when I'm not in a good state. In the euro club, I forced myself to approach, though I probably didn't do it with a full effort. Here, I had a chance to open her so I plowed. Instead of running it solidly by hooking her again and then trying for the pull, I just tried to ask her to come upstairs and dance.

Her response was interesting, "I was upstairs earlier and already got in trouble."

I could have replied, "Well, you'd only get in good trouble with me" or something like that. Instead, I just let the set end.

Talk louder:
Trojan- always bugs me to talk louder. Usually, I should talk a little louder, but it doesn't make a difference. Today, I just could talk loud enough. I'm sure that hurt me. Almost every set was telling me that they couldn't hear me.

Give me your number:
2j went home early as he had been sick all week and felt like shit. This Asian PUA I met happened to be coming out so at least I had a wing for the rest of the night. I tried to push 2j to stay but I really should be fine doing stuff myself. The Asian PUA and I opened some sets. He opens a lot, so I could have let him do the work. Strangely, I wanted to open more when I saw him hesitate for a second.

I had some decent sets but my game was off. Again, I just wasn't feeling confident. That is key. I should have believed. When I believe, good things happen.

At the end of the night, there was this short black girl and this tall pale girl walking down the sidewalk. It was an interesting combination because both girls were the type I'm into right now. I guess I really want to hook up with a black girl cause I chose her as my target. The pale girl was cuter and I probably should have worked her.

The Asian PUA was talking to his friend. He wasn't coming to wing so I just yelled for him and pointed at the tall girl. She giggled. He did a good job of holding her. We probably could have venue changed the girls if I pushed for it. My wing suggested them coming for food and they seemed like they might be interested. He suggested Domino's. My girl didn't like that. I probably could have oversold the Mexican place or pizza place but I held myself back. I could have tried to push a venue change as they were asking what we were doing.

Wow, I really sucked tonight...

I just realized how I kept passing up opportunities tonight. It's like I decided I was having a shitty night early on and I wanted to keep viewing it from that frame. On a regular night, we would have venue changed the girls. I could see the moves, but I just didn't take them. I remember how I felt as it was unfolding. Part of me was telling myself to oversell food or another venue, and I just sat there not wanting to make it happen. Weird inner game issues tonight...

Anyway, I talked about margaritas. I've been using that as a closing sequence the last two night. She liked margaritas so I tried to number close. She said, "No, give me your number."
Me: Naw, give me yours.
Her: Give me yours.
Me: No, forget it.

The thing is that I know it's 98% likely that she's not gonna contact me so I didn't want to waste my time. As it goes in this game, that I didn't want to give it made her want to take it more. I said something like, "Don't worry, I'll call you." I was trying to frame it like she was afraid I wasn't gonna bother calling her. Then she said that she has a boyfriend so she wanted to do it this way. I said, "I know you're not gonna call."

She pushed for it, so I gave her the number. I know she won't call, but that's an example some old pickup theory.

Time to follow a game plan

2011-09-23T02:05:00.000-07:00

Thursday night, there wasn't much to report. 2j couldn't get into The Apartment. Apparently they remodeled the upstairs and were being strict about dress code for upstairs. I opened the one decent looking set in the Lion Head area. We planned to get to Spy bar by 1am. We drove by Duffy's (it looked dead and I couldn't find parking) and stopped by Durkin's. Durkin's was busy but there weren't that many sets. I opened this 2-set of black girls. I tried number closing one but nothing happened. When we got to Spy Bar, they tried to charge us cover. They said there was some special DJ there that night so we needed to get there by midnight to get in free. We ended the night at Leg Room. All of Division was dead and we ran through the sets in Leg Room in about ten minutes.

The night was a bust, then, but I did learn something about what I need to fix in my game. I watched the Tyler video below before I went out. I feel that the first part really describes my game. I've mentioned before that I've been aware that I play to not lose too often. I feel like he's describing me when he says guys often just try to "hold the set" instead of trying to push it towards the lay. 2j and I talked in the car for awhile and I realized that I have been dicking around with my number closes.

Yes, I pushed some of the number closes, but in August and September, I really didn't do much with the numbers. I made all kinds of excuses. When we were going out every day, I literally didn't have time to really work the numbers. Then I complained that I didn't want to go out for certain Day 2's cause I was afraid I'd get stuck paying for a dinner and then not get anything. I also realized that I text certain girls and they responded, yet I never really pushed to meet up. I think part of it was I was busy trying to go out every night and practicing pulling, but part of me was protecting myself by not really trying.

2j gets most of his lays from Day 2's and he's been having steady success lately with that. I always thought he had some fancy text game. He does flirt with them a bit sometimes but he says it's mostly basic. He said he could tell I was doing something wrong with the numbers cause with the amount we were going out, by sheer random probability, one should be able to get Day 2's out. I then realized that I used to get more Day 2's when my game was worse. It was then that I had to admit what I wrote in the paragraph above. For a variety of reasons, I didn't take that many numbers, and I also didn't really push the numbers to meet up.

Action plan:
As Tyler says in the video, it's time that I stopped going out to practice and started trying to get laid. Again, this isn't an entirely new concept. I made the breakthrough a few weeks ago where I realize that I half ass many if not most of the sets in the night. If I'm gonna spend time going out, I need to do things right. Now, I have a clearer idea of what I need to focus on.

I still want to work on SNL's. Going home with a girl the same night is such a fun experience. I always say that I love when I wind up in a new apartment of a girl I just met. If I'm gonna make that happen more often, that I need to run solid game. I can open sets hard and get girls really into me. I realize that after that, I would just try to "hold the set" as Tyler describes. If I wanna pull, I need to lead the girl around the club so I get her used to following my lead, and so she gets that illusion that she knows me longer than she does (the old Mystery Method of creating more memories of the girl with you in different locations).

I remember when I made a conscious effort to lead that one black girl from Iowa. Surprise, that set went well. Too often, I just stand in the same spot. At least I'll try to escalate, but I need to move her around the club.

Logistics & Numbers:
Sometimes, you have to take numbers. This goes along with something I need to do more in my sets as well. I need to screen the girls for logistics. I know this concept, but I don't ask the girl the right questions. I know 2j does this as he'll usually know the girls situation. I need to find out where the girl lives, who she came with, who drove, where she's staying, etc. I can also throw in RSD Brad's, "What are you doing later?" I need to figure out if the logistics are even there for a pull. Sometimes, it's not there: for example, she's in a bachelorette party and she drove, or she's with her brother and staying at his place. If the logistics for pulling are not there, I should try to get a number close. If it might be there, I can take a phone number, but I should be focused on moving her around the club and escalating.

When I take numbers, I have to text them the next day. If I get in on Friday, I can wait till Sunday. I need to try to set up a Day 2 within a week. No more dicking around telling myself that maybe I can get a better text exchange going before I try to set up the Day 2. I need to figure out something we want to do (get margaritas, get thai food, etc), and find out what her schedule is and plan to do it.

Flakes:
Flakes are part of the game. Since I keep sarging girls in the city, it's really annoying because I'll go out to the city and end up with a flake and now I wasted all that time. I need to make this work with my schedule. I like to go out and cold approach on certain days and I used to not like to set up Day 2's on those days. I think now that I'm better off setting up a Day 2 on say Tues, Thurs, Fri, or Sat because if she flakes, then I can just go out and sarge as usual. I hate wasting good cold approach days with Day 2's but I should be trying to go on Day 2's more now instead of trying to sarge more.

Closing thoughts:
I'm actually gonna start taking more numbers. For awhile, I would rarely take a number because I told myself I was only gonna work on pulling. Manwhore has said that he got some of the hotties through Day 2's and not only from SNL's. I see that 2j's main method right now is Day 2's. Crazy beast mode sarging was fine, and I still wanna work on my SNL game, but I should go back to taking more numbers.

Beyond that, if I push for my goals in the ways I wrote above, I'm surely gonna get better results. My game has improved and some cool things have happened over the last few months, but I have to admit that I spent too much time spinning my wheels. I'll close by summarizing in Tyler's terms, "I need to focus on a plan to get laid instead of just going out and trying to hold sets."

Pirate Day Pub Crawl

2011-09-23T01:29:00.000-07:00

The barone group in Chicago had a pub crawl on Monday, Sept 19 with a pirate theme. I thought they just made it up, but I heard the day mentioned on the radio that day, and I remember playing World of Warcraft last year and being able to turn into a pirate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Talk_Like_a_Pirate_Day It's called International Talk like a Pirate Day. The Pub Crawl was for 3 hours and cost $15. It included domestic beers, some run punch, free food at each bar, and a trolley to hop among the bars. Every time I go, I get my money's worth.

Before the pub crawl, we stopped at this event for Southern Comfort promoting some new spicy spirit. The event was great and would have been good enough, but we wanted to hit the pub crawl so we left early. The event offered several free Southern Comfort drinks, free pizza, and there were hot server girls, and two girls in bikinis dancing at the bar. We warmed up on some late 20's set that we saw there.

The pub crawl was slow. The main set of the night was this mixed set we ran into that were all dressed up as pirates. Some of the bars gave pirate merchandise: I have an eyepatch and pirate hat that I'm going to recycle on Halloween. This group had their own outfits for the event. I was working on this short brunette. We ended up leaving and hopping to our last bar. The set showed up and I tried to sarge that girl. I was up on her and it was on for a bit but I probably was too drunk to make it happen.

The liquor really hit me as the pub crawl was ending. I remember 2j telling me that my game totally sucks when I'm really trashed. He said I have fun and am fun but I do too much me-it conversation. I'll talk to girls and just plow with material without responding to any of their feedback. I don't calibrate so I might as well be talking to a wall and the girls can sense that. 2j got a makeout from this mixed 4-set that we opened. I remember two guys and two girls were sitting in this booth. We approached and immediately, this one girl jumped up and was all up on 2j.

I'm lucky 2j pushed for us to get on the train. I had told him when I had to leave to be at Union Station in time. I made my train and got to Union Station. I couldn't find the right platform and had five minutes to go when I finally asked someone and realized I had to go to the other side. I ended up making the train and got home safely.

I'm glad I got home because I was totally trashed when I got home. I just laid in bed and fell asleep. I must have gotten home around 1:45am. I woke up at 3am and my head was spinning. I got water and had a hard time staying standing. I would have been miserable if I had been stuck out waint for a 5am or 5:30am train/bus ride to come home. I probably would have gotten kicked out of whatever after hours bar I went to for passing out.

Cockblock friend & More proof that looks don't matter

2011-09-18T04:00:00.000-07:00

I started the night with 2j and his roommate. The roommate left early which is good because the guy can be annoying. He'll hover around and not talk to the girls in the set, or he'll decide to come in and talk to the girl 2j or I is talking rather than talking to the friends. 2j and I ran a bunch of solo sets but nothing really stuck. He started to lose energy around 2am. I tried to push him to go another half hour but then I decided it was just best to let him go. We both realized that if he stayed, he'd just do nothing anyway. I ended up meeting with Trojan- from the forums anyway.

The set of the night was this 2-set Trojan- and I worked on the street in Wrigley. One was this pale, thin brunette who was an inch or two taller than me. The friend was this older blonde (I say older now to mean probably around my age, early 30's) who was a little overweight. Apparently she told Trojan- she was married but I'm not sure if she was. I had my girl really hooked. She was comfortable with me being right up on her and with me holding both her hands. Conversation was good too. The blonde came and pulled her away. I tried plowing with the blonde but they walked away.

How can I believe in looks?
The one positive thing I can take out of the bullshit that happened is that I have even more evidence that looks don't mean shit. Well, I suppose they meant something to the blonde but to the girl I wanted, it made no difference. I opened some set and then about ten minutes later, I saw the girls down the street talking to three dudes. The guys they were talking to were tall and built. The blonde was close to one of the guys. The two guys were standing near to the brunette but way too far away to be picking her up. I just went right in and grabbed the brunette's hand. She said something like, "Oh, it's you again." I was right up on her and she was smiling.

The blonde got all pissed and started bitching at me. Thinking back, maybe I should have just tried to ignore her. The problem was the bitching was making my target uncomfortable and she moved away from me as this happened. The two guys just stood there talking to each other like chodes do. The one guy tried to take advantage of the situation. It's funny again because he's probably like 6 feet tall, buffed, and good looking, yet I'm the one the brunette wants and not him. On top of that, I owned him verbally too.

The blonde was talking shit, but then she tried to get the guy to get rid of me. She said, "This is her finance." I laughed cause I knew it was bullshit and I knew the brunette liked me. The guy tried to put his arm around the girl and looked awkward. I went to touch the dude but it looked awkward as he was turning as he did it. I talked some more and then put my arm on his shoulder in the condescending way I always do.

The set just pissed me off because ultimately there was nothing I could do with the blonde. I guess I wanted Trojan- to do more as well. He tried initially but he didn't offer me any assistance the second time even though he had been watching. Some of his advice helped in the past, but he gave me bullshit advice here. He tried telling me that he thinks I looked around at all of them too much and he thinks I want their approval. I told him that if he had actually been up close, he would have seen how much shit the blonde was giving me and how I did my best to plow through it.

Again, sometimes it's just bad luck. I needed the blonde to like Trojan- and/or like me. Instead, she hated me and I couldn't get anywhere with her cockblocking. I think maybe I should have just ignored her since winning her over wasn't working. As I said above, the bitching affected my target as she moved away. I needed to stay up on her and keep plowing with material over the blonde's bitching. If I kept the brunette engaged, the blonde's nonsense would have become background noise.

Lead more:
I opened these two chubby girls in front of Proof. I was attracted to this blonde who was probably around my age. She was drunk and high buying temperature and I was all up on her. Trojan- did a good job engaging the friend even though he wasn't attracted to her. My mistake came when I threw out, "Let me give you a ride home." She gave some objections like, "I just wanna go home and go to bed." I replied, "We'll just hang out for a bit." She ended up saying, "Where's your car?" I said, "It's two blocks that way (which it was)." She said, "I can't walk that far."

Now, her feet were killing her and she had taken her shoes off. That was not leading. I did a good job until I just dropped the line of conversation. When she said, "Where's your car?" I needed to grab her hand and use Jeffy's, "Sko' Sko'!" The friend might have tried to stop her, but at least I would have made the right move. I can tell I'm rusty with my pull technique again as that was way too weak. I don't give up when she's basically agreed to let me drive her home.

I didn't get much time as her friend came with the car. She had been telling me her friend was pulling up soon in this Jaguar. I tried to tell her, "Give me a ride too." She didn't say anything, but I suppose I could have been more aggressive her too. She went up to the car and got in the passenger seat. I should have opened the back door, guided her in, and then hopped in myself. The other friend, who had been talking to Trojan-, liked us, so she might have been cool with it. I guess I got thrown off a little cause the friend who was driving was bitching the moment my girl was near the car, "Fucking get in the car already!"

Ultimately, the pull might not have happened due to the logistics, but I made a bad screw up. The friends might have let me drive her home as they were older. 2j says it frequently and it's true, "Older girls cockblock less than the 21 year old girls." Still, I'm not gonna get a pull if I give up that easily (the girl saying, "It's too far, my feet hurt.") Yes, I'll get the easy ones where the girl makes it happen, but those are rare.

Friday FR: Push sets more?

2011-09-17T19:24:00.000-07:00

I get annoyed by how I don't have more success but I admit that my criteria for success is probably too high. As I've mentioned before, my mind likes to focus on my last pull being May 5, and somehow I ignore stuff like that crazy experience in the alley last Saturday or the near pulls I had over the last two months. Objectively, I have been doing better. Just about every night I massively hook at least 1-2 sets.

I'm trying to think about what I did wrong last night. The girl I hooked the most I had to settle for a number close. She was totally into me and I took her number. Suddenly, some guy she knew showed up and then she got all weird. She introduced me to the guy and then she just ran off. There was another girl I grinded with but nothing happened. The third set of interest was this set 2j and I opened. I showed this blonde the bathroom in the VIP area meaning I had mini isolation with her. I can say that I learned you can pull a set in there. She was drunk and walked in when the door unlocked and some dude was standing in there. He started to talk to her and I went in and put my arm around her to get rid of the dude. I see that a bathroom pull would work cause no staff said anything about more than one person being in the bathroom and in a pull, we wouldn't have the door open for a long time like in this situation.

I walked with that blonde back to her friend. 2j had left at this point. I started talking to this brunette who turned out to be married. She was my type though: she kept complimenting me, and I can't even believe this, but she mentioned the History Channel show "Ancient Aliens." I enjoy that show and can't believe I met a girl who liked it. The bad thing was that I started to ignore my blonde. I could tell she wanted my attention as she kept looking over and trying to say stuff. It looked like she wanted to feel better about herself so she started talking to some random dude who was standing near her. I kept talking to the married girl but then I busted out because I started asking her if she was sure she was happy with her marriage. She didn't want me to escalate but it was worth a shot. Thinking back, though, I should have went back to the blonde. Now I would have had the friend's approval and maybe I could have worked something with the blonde.

Stick in sets more:
I went through a stage where I persisted more. I mean that I kept going back into sets that ended for various reasons out of my control. Sometimes, you just lose the set for a dumb reason and you can go back and it will still be on. I notice I do this less now as I keep wanting to open more. This is a mistake. I could have gone back to the blonde and married brunette set. I could have tried again with that girl I was grinding with as I saw her alone several times later.

Drinking too much:
I find that I like drinking too much and perhaps I should go back to doing that less frequently. It's debatable though. My last real pull was when I was drunk on that Cinco De Mayo pub crawl. I also got two make outs when I was wasted after one of the free drink/food parties a few weeks ago. On the other hand, I was sober with that crazy black girl last Saturday. I was sober when I almost had that pull with that girl from Iowa. When I had my big breakthrough in Wrigley two weeks ago, I was sober as well.

Tonight, I'm gonna have one beer or two so I'll basically be sober so we'll see what happens. Honestly, it probably doesn't make a difference unless I'm really drunk. I do okay slightly drunk or sober.

A canada goose took a shit on me

2011-09-17T19:11:00.000-07:00

Some of the stuff that happens to me is truly comical. I take it very well too as I know last night most people would have let this stuff ruin their evening. I wanted to take the bus in so I could drink but to leave late, I have to walk 3 miles to take this Pace bus to the Blue line. I have to walk that back but I like it cause it burns extra calories.

I had taken the bus from the blue line but not from that stop the other way. Apparently the bus turns right and left at this intersection I was waiting near. I was about 100 ft at a stop where I thought the bus would turn. I missed the bus cause it turned left. It only cost me 20 minutes but that was annoying. Luckily, with internet on the phone, waiting doesn't really bother me because I can surf forums and stuff which is what I'd do at home anyway.

When I finally was waiting for the train, I looked down and saw I had canada goose poo on my left pant leg. I can't even figure out how that happens. I'm guessing I rubbed up against poo while I was waiting around. I didn't see any geese flying or walking around so I don't see how shit could have landed on me. I also don't remember leaning up against anything so who knows?

I wiped some of it off with the tissue I had in my pocket and some spit. It just looked like green grass stains and luckily this stuff doesn't even smell like anything. I worried I might not get into Sound Bar. I also wanted to stop at Mcdonald's to get a big soft drink since I had gotten thirsty from the walk and I wanted to try to wash out some poo.

I ended up making it on time and finishing my drinks. Oh, and I got in as well. It makes for a funny story I suppose.

Best responses from the two tall girls

2011-09-14T03:57:00.000-07:00

Tonight I again got a variety of responses. I had some average looking girl go off on me and tell me go go away. I really do laugh when that happens now. I find it amusing that a girl can get that upset with me when I'm not even doing anything crazy. I think I asked that girl, "Fumas mota?" That means, "Do you smoke weed?" in Spanish. She got all pissed off and said I was rude. She told 2j that he was rude too for the way he came up.

On the other hand, my two best sets were with the two girls I found most attractive. The first was was this tall girl who said she was a 2nd Year Medical student at my old university. I should have number closed her. I opened her on the dance floor and we started dancing. She began asking me rapport questions right off the bat. Vinny was trying to help me with the four other friends. 2j didn't want to come in for some reason until I pulled him over. I told myself I was gonna open them later, but they ended up leaving. When I meet a cool girl like that, I should just take the number right away, especially when it's such a big set like that. The logistics were horrible for pulling so I should be number closing right away.

The second set was this tall girl that I found on the dance floor when we were doing our last round. I saw this 2-set: the tall girl and this short, chubby girl. They were dancing with each other and I was dancing next to them. I then decided to jump in between them and I moved close to my girl. That display of confidence hooked her. I remember she gave me that look when I did that and when I grabbed her hands, I could tell she liked me then. She was way more enthusiastic than I expected.

When I strongly hook girls that I really want, it still surprises me. I'm not surprised that they are attracted to me, but this girl was tall and cute and it surprised me how strongly I hooked her. I remember grabbing her hands and dancing with her, and within 5 seconds, she spun around so her back was facing me. She immediately pushed her ass right up onto me and started grinding. She was taller than me, so only the bottom of her ass was hitting my cock while most of her ass was rubbing against my stomach. Of course, I was instantly hard, and she grinded me even more when she noticed this.

2j was trying to wing me and I thought we finally had a really good set when I saw him dancing with the friend. I spun my girl around and pulled her into me. I was getting ready to escalate when I saw her friend start to move away from 2j and then she pulled my girl away too.

2j did put an effort in and sometimes the friend just doesn't like your wing. It's happened several times when I tried to wing him. I just wonder if he would have tried better if the girl had been attractive. At the same time, it's hard to run your best game when you're not really into a girl.

Thinking back, I probably should have went back into that set but we ended up leaving. 2j ran into some community guy we knew. This guy matched my enthusiasm for opening sets and I see why that attitude is inspiring. We hit several other spots but there were only 1-2 sets in the other areas we hit. We had some confrontation with some jealous orbiters in Lincoln Park. 2j and I disagreed on how to handle them. He likes the full ignore tactic and I like engaging them and verbally cutting them down or outmaneuvering them while keeping my party vibe going. We debated our methods but at the end I said that I think we could agree that each method works. Ignoring works better for 2j, and verbal amogging works better for me.

Tonight was fun then but the off days have really become slower now that summer is over. I feel like the best thing I gained today was I increased my feelings of entitlement when it comes to tall girls.

Instant massive hook & Screening out girls not DTF

2011-09-11T06:49:00.000-07:00

I actually had a decent night before the craziness at the end. I thought the night might be shitty because things seem to go better when I'm out with 2j. I feel that he and I just mesh well as a PUA team. Seagull and I were a good team too, but since 2j and I have been going out 5+ times a week for several weeks, it's like when Seagull and I went for like 10 days straight around New Year 2010. Well, like that but on steroids. I enjoy going out with Trojan-, Vinny, and JW as well but I just feel like something cool is more likely to happen when I'm out with 2j. I suppose tonight disproves that theory.

Early long set that I screwed up:
Vinny and I started off at Republic for the usual drink deal. We got into a long 2-set that I opened. I should have number closed this thin Mexican girl. The friend suddenly had to leave and she had number closed Vinny. She told me she wanted to hang with us again. I was in the process of getting my target's number but the friend said they had to go and said she'd contact us through Vinny. I know that's a shitty lead and if it hadn't been early on and if I hadn't been drink, I would have pushed for the number.

Screening out time wasters:
We were planning on going to Wrigley but Vinny wanted to go to Lasalle Power Company as he found his first successes in Chicago at that place. Since his buddy from home was out, I told him I'd just go with the flow tonight. Usually, I would have pressed for Wrigley since Trojan- said he was gonna go out.

At Lasalle, the highlight was this blonde that I opened who was about to walk down the stairs. I stopped her and opened her hard. She responded favorably and we had strong eye contact. She said she was gonna go smoke and I said, "Can I come with?" It's strange that usually I wouldn't have the confidence to go through with it. There were several times when I persisted in this set when I have given up in the past. While she was outside smoking, we chatted for a bit. She was receptive to the kino I was doing and kept giving me create eye contact. She started to get uncomfortable with hand holding though.

When she was done smoking, I had suggested we dance. She said she had to close her tab so we went to the second floor to do that. I actually had my doubts when I was following her. I always wonder if the girl really wants me to tag along. I shouldn't doubt it cause I know that all girls, unless they screwed up mentally, know how to tell me to get lost if they aren't into me or don't want me following them. I know it's just self doubt. She already told me to come with her to close the tab, yet somehow part of me thinks I shouldn't follow her?!

Closing the tab took forever. We danced a little bit near that bar but she wanted to go upstairs to her friend. When we got up there, I met some of her friends. There were like 5 other girls. Some Asian guy came up and started grinding on her. Part of me wanted to leave, but I forced myself to talk to him and then spin her away from him. I should mention that I knew she knew him by the way she hugged him upon seeing him.

She danced with me a bit but she didn't like me holding her hands while I was dancing. That's part of my dance floor game and even a set like the beginning set at Republic was cool with that early on. I had actually talked to this girl more than that first set. She kept going back to dance with her friends. At this point, I got a text message from Vinny so I moved away from the group. I went back and tried dancing with her again and she said I was moving too fast. I replied, "I don't want you to be uncomfortable in front of your friends." Her response was basically that it wasn't that: she just liked to move slower.

At this point, I decided to leave. I felt I was wasting my time there and Vinny and his friend were about to take a cab. I literally caught up with them just as they were hailing a cab. I figured if the girl isn't comfortable dancing close to me, it's probably gonna be difficult to lay her so I should just move on. On top of that, her logistics were shitty being with that bachelorette party.

Before I left, part of me decided to go for the number close. I said, "Hey, I have to go, but we should grab drinks sometime." She said, "Sure." I said, "Here, give me your phone number." She hesitated, which made me want it even less. I ended up saying, "You know what, you can give it to me or not give it to me, I don't care." The way I said it, I knew she wasn't gonna give it, but I was fine with that.

Numbers are flaky anyway and I do a shit job of following up on them. I have been trying to give it a better effort. I actually think I saved myself the hassle here, but maybe I should have taken the number anyway.

Massive hook in the street off opener:
I love the late night street game as I always mention. This blonde was outside this bar smoking in our usual late night area. I had just gotten a Diet A&W Root Beer from Walgreen's when I saw this girl. I walked up and opened her hard. It still amazes me how I can hook sets so hard now. This was like last week when 2j saw me and said I had hooked strongly right off the opener. The strong eye contact was there and she was comfortable with me being right up on her and holding her hands.

I ended up number closing this girl. We talked for awhile outside. She is originally from Poland I she just moved to Chicago recently for school. Several times, she was thinking about going back in but I plowed and also pulled her physically back into me. Earlier in the week, I said I was gonna stop trying the fast kiss close. I kept wanting to do it in this set, though. I still think I need to stop doing it for the reasons Tyler explains in the video. I definitely am stuck in that second stage where I feel weird NOT escalating.

She wouldn't kiss me and I tried 2-3 times for it. She finally kissed the side of my lip and cheek. Like the corner of her mouth touched the corner of my mouth. She had actually given me more with that as the second time, she kissed my cheek fully when I told her to kiss me.

As I said, I number closed her. She said her schedule is usually open so I'll try to set something up next week. I have to actively try this week to set up Day 2's instead of just texting once or twice and then not following up.

I think I could have followed her in the bar and hung out with her and tried for a pull. The thing is that I didn't want to pay cover to get in.

This set in an example of what 2j said about that Polish 2-set that I left about a month ago. Recall I had this attractive Polish bartender totally hooked but her friend had a serious boyfriend and wouldn't give an inch even though she was into Andrew. I left the set and then I regretted it as I had no real sets after that. 2j said at the time that I could have stayed with the set, and it turned out I should have. He added that you can't be sure till afterward. It could also be that if I had stayed in the set, I might have missed something better.

If I had stayed with the girl, maybe I would have pulled her, but I definitely would have missed the craziness that followed this night.

Closing thoughts:
I was happy with the Polish set that I massively hooked off the opener. If I get one of those a night, I'm usually happy with my night. I'm showing progress in my game considering that happened with two other decent sets and the craziness at the end of the night.

Messed around in an alley, girl wanted to charge me, and almost fucked for free

2011-09-11T06:11:00.000-07:00

I can't even believe the crazy shit that happens to me now. Messing around with a girl I just met in an alley is pretty cool. Normally, I would write this post by reviewing the night. There actually were two other interesting sets but I'll write about that in another post. I'll get to straight to the point: the highlight of the night was this black girl stroking me in the alley and then I sucked on her tits while I rubbed her pussy. I've read about guys from the community doing stuff like this and I'm glad to finally start experiencing it for myself.

The long title already revealed some of the interesting drama that was involved in all this. There the girl trying to hint at me "taking care of her" during the walk, yet in my mind I'm convinced I can fuck her for free. When we first started messing around in the alley, she was stroking my cock, and this Mexican worker was throwing stuff in the dumpster about 5 dumpsters up the alley. I remember telling her, "There's someone there" and she said, "Fuck him, he's just some garbage man" as she continued to stroke my cock. As she was stroking my cock, she kept trying to get me to pay. When I showed her I had 65 cents in my pocket (which was the truth), I started escalating on her.

I kissed and sucked on her neck, and rubber her pussy through her pants. She was horny and pulled out her tits. She didn't want me actually touching her pussy when I tried to put my hand down her pants early on, but as she got more turned on, she let me do more. I think there's a decent chance I could have actually fucked her if these two assholes hadn't decided to walk down this particular alley. I couldn't see what was going on as I was sucking on her tits and rubbing her clit frantically, but suddenly she said, "Someone is coming" and she pushed me off and pulled up her pants. I looked up and saw two dudes walking down the alley. They were about were the Mexican guy was throwing out the trash. I pulled my pants up and we walked down the side alley. (This alley intersected with another alley near us.) I remember walking briskly out of the alley holding the girls hand. This Indian couple figured something was up as I remember hearing him make a comment about me. I remember my shirt was half tucked in and my fly was open.

$50-Final Offer:
I really analyze what happened as she was hoping to charge me, but she was also horny. She didn't want to let me touch her pussy, but then she let me. She was wet so I know she was getting turned on. The two guys ruined my chance for a free lay, though. That blew her state and she wanted to walk by to where her friends were. She kept telling me that she thought I was full of shit that I don't have money. The truth is I actually don't even have any money in my account this moment. I couldn't have gotten any money and I explained that to her while we were walking to her friends. When we got to the friends, I was holding her hands as she was facing me. Our crotches were pressed together and she could tell I was still horny. She threw out that I could bang her for $50, which actually is a good deal. That escort I met at Rock N' Roll McDonald's mentioned she charges $200. That blonde was a little cuter than this girl, but this black girl had a fine body. She had good size breasts, but I don't care about that. She had what I thought was an amazing ass.

I actually considered the offer and part of me wishes I went through with it. I would have enjoyed bending her over and spanking and grabbing that hot ass. The thing is that I wouldn't let myself do it. I don't care about the morality of it. I just don't want to spend money on girls. It's the same mentality that I have for not buying drinks. The thing is, I probably should have done it considering I've wasted more than $50 taking girls out in the past only to get nothing. Heck, that fat bisexual girl I met scammed me out of $18 worth of drinks when I was drunk in July and I didn't even get a kiss from her. $50 guaranteed that I could bang her. As I think about it now, if I had gone through with it, I would tell her conditions, "I get to cum twice and I'm coming in her mouth once."

I was tempted, but didn't do it so I walked off. I ended up meeting up with Trojan-. I had forgotten that I had told him to meet me right before I met this girl.

How I met this girl:
I already finished with the good parts. This is background on how I met her. I was walking with Vinny and his friend from his hometown. I saw a 4-5 set of decent looking black girls standing on the sidewalk. I was gonna open this girl in a dress who I found out was the birthday girl. Instead, I went up to this girl in pants who was dancing. I had opened some cute blonde, who turned out to be married, earlier in the same way. The blonde had been dancing and I just went up and did my dance floor opener where I grab their hands and start dancing with them. The black girl was receptive. We were dancing on the sidewalk and then I pulled her close and we were grinding right there as the bars were letting out.

Vinny came in and started talking to the birthday girl. It was unintentional perfect timing as that girl was trying to get me to buy her a slice of pizza. While Vinny had her occupied, I kept grinding with my girl. I was facing her and we were the right height so our crotches we the exact same level when I had her pulled in and I had my arms around her. She was telling me how it was her birthday soon and she had no money to buy a dress or get her hair done. I told her that she could go to Sound Bar for 4 free drinks and I'd repeat this free drink theme until we got in the alley. I kept telling her I had no money but I could take her out to these drink deals.

We were both starting to get horny from our crotches pressing together. I remember her asking me early on what I was doing now. I said I was going home. I didn't have my car cause I was able to use the 3day pass to get downtown. I asked her where she lived and she said the south side. The logistics were shitty. She suggested we go for a walk.

As we were walking, I kept grabbing and spanking her ass. We started making out too. We were getting into it but we were standing on the sidewalk so I pushed her off. I was trying to figure out a good alley and ultimately, we chose the wrong one. I actually should go find a good spot for the future as I'm out in that area all the time. I had thought about in the past and wish I had followed through and found a good spot.

Before we made out, she was starting to suggest that I "take care of her." She said she can't find a guy to buy her stuff. For real, the girl would have been cool if I were a guy that would bang her and pay for her hair to get done or take her out for her birthday. It was when it was clear I wasn't gonna do that and just wanted to fuck that she started actually mentioning paying actual money like I was paying for a hooker.

Thoughts:
Again, what a fucking crazy night. I'm sure I'll bang a girl in the alley in the future like I want to do. I liked the drama of her trying to get me to pay and that I got some free action anyway and likely could have fucked her had those guys not walked by. I even liked the Mexican taking out the trash while we're obviously doing sexual shit. I guess I'm sort of an exhibitionist. I suspected that but never had empirical evidence of that till now. I just wished those two guys hadn't walked down that alley, but hey, at least it wasn't the cops.

On a side note, it's funny how this pussy smell doesn't really go away until you take a shower. I've washed my hands a bunch of times and still smell it.

I'll end by saying that this was the highlight of my night, but this was on top of some decent sets before and I'll write about that in my next entry.

An escort, some day game situations, and train sarge

2011-09-10T05:51:00.000-07:00

I had an active night. The plan was to drive to the Blue Line station, check out my friend's art exhibit reception, hit the Chicago Art District event and then Sound Bar. I still had my CTA pass. As I was driving to the Blue Line, I realized a block from my house that I had a flat. That sucked but I made do. I was fortunate to have enough time to walk to the Metra station and catch the train. I only lost an hour so we got to do everything we planned.

I told myself I needed to pull. The first Metra train isn't till 7:30am on Saturdays. The backup plan was to stay at 2j's for a few hours. Instead, I got some exercise and got home early. I ended up discovering that I could take this Pace bus 2.5 miles to my house and the walk home wasn't that bad.

Day Game situations:
For some reason, 2j and I didn't open that many sets at the Chicago Art District event. I opened a 3-set at the very first place and 2j opened a 2-set at the next place and then we didn't really do anything. 2j said that I was being too hard on myself when I complained that I felt I should be doing more. I hate to report that I passed on opening several sets.

I suppose I made up for it at the end. I opened this 3-set while we were waiting for the bus after the event. I had this 19-20 year old cute blonde hooked. I made two mistakes. The set ended up being a 5 set with a guy and girl standing near them. I remember hearing the guy commenting about us sarging the girls. The girl that was talking to the guy came up. 2j said that the girl came to cockblock but because they were young and didn't have enough bar/club experience, she didn't really know how to do it. She came up and just stood there. 2j said I should have ignored her. I'm used to engaging female friends because I want to prevent the drag-away. I opened her and extended my hand and she refused to shake my hand.

This was the second screw up. I should have just backturned her and continued to talk to my girl. Instead, I started talking to 2j. 2j and I both figured that if I was gonna play it out the way I did, I couldn't let the cockblock's rudeness affect me. I commented that the cockblock's response to me was so unusual that I couldn't process it at the time.

Train sarge:
The two train sarges I'm about to write about could fit under day game situations. I went out a ton since April but I ran very little day game. To put a percentage on it, it would be like .01% day game (seriously). I feel like I should be comfortable in all situations. What I take from tonight is that I should have good reference experiences for being more confident in every day situations. I opened girls while waiting for the train and the sets went way better than I expected. The community says that if you own night game, then day game should feel like playing on easy mode and it's time I internalized that.

While we were waiting for the train after the bus ride from the gallery event, some girl opened us. She asked which direction her stop was. 2j plowed and asked if she had been to the gallery event. She had indeed and unlike us, she was really interested in the art. We kept talking and when the train came, we all sat near each other. The conversation was going well but I knew I only had two stops so I forced a number close. She was hesitant but I persisted. I might have gotten a fake number. I haven't checked it yet but I did what I could.

The second train set was at the very end of the night. I got separated from Vinny and 2j when I sarged this escort at Rock N Roll McDonald's. They had gone to the Grand Red Line station to go to 2j's place. I walked to the Chicago station. I was gonna go to 2j's place even though they were skipping the late night Division game. I ended up opening this woman who had been reading a book while we were waiting for the train. Again, I sat down near her. The conversation was going well so I tried to instant date her to Clarke's. (I passed 2j's stop which resulted in me having no where to go, but I ended up getting home earlier anyway as I said in the intro). Thinking back, I should have number closed her.

We talked more and then the Belmont stop came which I had mentioned. She said, "Here's your stop." I tried to get her to come to Clarke's again but it was a no go. I had no time to number close her. Thinking back, I guess I could have went for the number close and told her I'd get off at the next station.

A better move, I think, was to burn the set to the ground. I actually thought of it as I got off the train. I should have just went for broke. She was drunk and I had some light kino going. She had been comfortable with that. It's too bad we weren't sitting right next to each other instead of across the aisle as I could have really escalated more. I hadn't escalated enough to really turn her on, but I still think I should have just thrown it out there, "Can I come over and hang out?" She probably would have said no but that would have been a good effort. The food extraction was a decent try. I should have done a number close or try to go home with her. Instead, I did neither and I think that was a mistake.

Escort:
2j and Vinny were done with sarging after we left Sound Bar. I wanted to try Rock N Roll McDonald's cause I had that great set last week. I went upstairs and asked one of them to follow but they didn't. I ended up opening this 2-set. Since I knew I had no wing, I tried to push things faster than I would have. Really early on, I tried telling my target to move over so I could sit. It was too early and the girl's resisted and I ended up leaving. I walked out to 2j and Vinny.

As we walked by the front, I saw this cute blonde playing with her phone at a table. I walked in and opened her. I talked for a little bit and she said right away that I could sit down in the empty chair. We had strong eye contact. I wanted to kino so I moved the chair to the side of the table.

She asked me what I had been doing and I told her I had been to Sound Bar. I asked her the same question and she said, "I'm an escort." I said, "Cool" and just kept talking. Again, I have to say that I'm different that most guys. I don't care that she's an escort. Even stranger, it kind of turns me on. I just continued the conversation and started to kino escalate. She was really testing me with the eye contact and I didn't flinch. I held her hand at one point and she was cool with that. I put my arm around her and tried massaging the back of her neck. She stopped me there and said, "You're good but I'm not a touchy feely kind of girl."

During the conversation, she had been texting a potential client that was by O'hare. She was verbalizing her thoughts about whether she was gonna go that far or not. I had told her mid way through that the cab was like $30 and she said it was more like $50. She felt it wasn't worth it to spend $100 to make $200. We kept talking and then she got the idea of taking the train. I told her where the nearest station was. She said she had to go. I told her to give me a hug and we went our separate ways.

I know most guys would think it's sick but for some reason, I like the idea of banging a girl that works as an escort but not having to pay. It's too bad I couldn't make this happen as she was cute.

I should take the positive that she was into me. I say that from the point of view that a sex worker (escort, stripper, porn star) would be used to all the BS from guys. The fact that my eye contact and body language broke through to her means that I do that right. I come off as high value and different from all the clients they deal with. If I can break through the wall of an escort, then I should never doubt that a regular girl can see my value.

Closing:
I gotta go get my flat tire fixed. At Sound Bar, I had this cute Indian girl hooked. It's too bad I couldn't find her later in the night. I had a fat Chinese girl who was really into me. 2j and Vinny couldn't occupy the friend cause she was from Taiwan and didn't speak English. I remember the second time I stopped this set and I was dancing with the Chubby girl, I actually said, "What's the problem?" when she wanted to leave again. She said, "My friend." It confirmed what I knew.

I had several day game situations that I used to fear. Yeah I was drunk, but when I'm sober, I should be more willing to open day game sets at the train, fast food place, or wherever. Again, it's supposed to be easier now that I am good at club game and I even have positive reference experience from those sets from Friday.

Sharing value on her last night in Chicago

2011-09-10T05:15:00.000-07:00

I have to write this report quickly as I have to get ready and head to my friend gallery reception soon. I just wanted to write this before my head gets clouded with all of Friday's activities. I had a wonderful evening Thursday night and that was despite sex not being involved. Sometimes I'm too goal oriented and I let something like that bother me: take that Irish girl that made out with me briefly and then dumped me in the friend zone. That stuff hurt. This was different last night.

I got a message Wednesday evening asking if I wanted to go to the zoo. It was from that engaged girl that I met on Division Street like a month ago. She had come out to my friend's free party three weeks ago. We had been taking about meeting up for weeks but nothing materialized. I thought she was just being flaky, but I found out last week and it was confirmed last night that it was because of medical problems. She had to go to the doctor 5 different times before they finally were able to solve what was wrong with her. She didn't want to elaborate but it sounded like migranes.

I actually wasn't sure if I was gonna make it out because I have a hard time getting up early. I currently am on this 3 day pass so I like to get use out of it but for example, I hade a hard time waking up at 3:30PM today (Friday). I happened to wake up at 10am Thursday so I went for a jog and then went out to the city. We had discussed meeting around 3pm at the zoo. I figured she was gonna flake as I hadn't heard from her when I text her that I was headed in but I went to the zoo anyway and had brought my camera.

She ended up coming out and when we met up, I found out that it was her last day in Chicago. When asked why she didn't mention it, she said she didn't want to put pressure on me the meet by telling me that. We walked around the zoo for a little bit but she was more interested in looking at the gardens in the area. We took some pics and I showed her that great skyline view from the new nature walk next to the park. She wanted to get a pic in Chinatown so we took the train down there.

We came back downtown as she wanted to take some pics by the river. Unfortunately, it was pouring rain by the time we got to the river cause we had dinner before. She had tried Giordano's and had wanted to try some more pizza. Originally, I was gonna take her to Gino's East, but we ended up at Pizzeria Due as we got of the train near there. I hadn't been to the later in like two years and I remember Sidegames and I used to go there almost every week at one point. I figured I must have really liked the pizza so we stopped there.

Edit:
Well, despite what I said, I had to cut this short and finish it Saturday morning. I wish I had finished this Friday before going out so I still was in the mindset I was after Thursday evening. I'm actually finding it hard to finish this post as all the events from Friday are fresh in my head.

Receiving value:
We had to wait for a table so we both ordered Diet Cokes and I paid the bartender for it. The girl was trying to pull out money and I just told her we'd figure it out when we got the bill for the pizza. After we finished eating, though, she put the whole meal on her credit card and wouldn't let me pay. Next, we walked to Ghirardelli's which is a chocolate place that serves good sundaes. I was gonna pay for that since she paid for the dinner, but again she charged it and wouldn't let me pay.

I often joke about girls paying for me, especially when some dumb girls at the club try to get me to buy drinks. I find though that I don't necessarily like when people pay for me. In this case, I was fine with it.

Giving value:
Thinking back, I actually am starting to feel that good feeling I had after that evening. 2j and I often talk about how we should feel confident when we go up to girls because we actually do offer the girls a lot of value. 2j says that when I doubt this, I should think about the comparison between the average chode and I. We offer masculine polarity, our nonjudgemental attitude, our frame vs the average social conditioned frame, cool events like the art gallery event we attended Friday, free drink deals, and so on.

On Thursday, this girl really made me realize that value. She met me by chance. I happened to walk by her on one of our late night Division outings and I opened her and ended up number closing her. On Thursday, she told me how she was shy and had a hard time making friends during her 3 months in Chicago. I told her that it surprised me that she said she's shy. Around me, she was very outgoing and we got along well. I felt free to express myself too.

I actually got a sense of how her short interactions with me made her stay in Chicago better. She talked about how she went out alone often when she was her. She expressed regret that the medical problem prevented her from coming out more. It was obvious too that she could imagine how much fun we would have had if we had met sooner or if she had been able to hang out more. Still, I was able to cram in that stuff on her last evening and she seemed to enjoy it.

Should I have pushed harder?
I remember texting 2j before the dinner. I wanted his opinion if I should try to burn the set to the ground. He thought that I should have. I'm actually still torn on this issue. She engaged but she's gonna be away from home for an entire year. It's already been 3 months. If I had more time, I'm certain that thing would have escalated. I didn't want to ruin what we had. It seems strange to me in a way that I had such a good time without having sex. I also wonder if I would have made things even better for both of us if I had pushed for the escalation.

Logistically, it would have been difficult too. She was staying at this hostel that didn't allow guests, but I think I could have sneaked in. We actually took the elevator up by accident when I was leaving.

Anyway, I know girls don't get offended when you try to escalate. I suppose I could have tried and still recovered if she had objected. I even had a perfect moment to turn the talk sexual. After dessert, we were walking down Michigan Ave and we passed by Victoria Secret. She made a comment about the store. I asked if she bought new lingerie and she said that she bought some perfume and her purse but no lingerie because she's not around her boyfriend. I replied that she still could look sexy underneath. I think I could have followed with, "Are you seriously not gonna have sex for a year? If you were my girlfriend, I actually would tell you could hook up as long as you practiced safe sex and didn't fall in love."

Obviously, her response to that would have given me an idea of how she felt. Maybe it was a mistake not to make that comment.

What's done is done. As I repeated several times, we both had a great time the way things turned out so no need to second guess it too much.

Some miserable cunt punched me...LOL

2011-09-08T04:07:00.000-07:00

Part of what I've always loved about sarging is the crazy stuff that happens. The highlight of the night was some miserable girl punching me in the chest in front of Y Bar. 2j and I were out with Vinny. We started at McGees where we opened three sets. We were gonna go to Kincaid's but it didn't look good so we just got on the train for free drinks at Crescendo. Vinny surprised us there by opening this hot blonde that showed up in this 3-set. Speaking of that set, there was a miserable tall girl in that set too. She gave us shit from the beginning. We plowed and then she told us to go away. We walked away and heard her complaining to the bartender about us and he gave her a weird look because we had already walked away.

Anyone reading this blog for the first time would probably think we were doing something mis-calibrated but I know we were fine. In fact, when we went to Spy Bar, we immediately got in this 2-set. 2j really pushed himself with his target. Some guy kept trying to steal her from him. The guy had some success a few times but 2j kept going back in and stealing her back. We actually were gonna leave when 2j started hesitating: he said that he thinks he should have tried again with the girl. I pushed him to go back him if he felt that way. The guy was all up on the girl grinding with her. We figured his best move was to do the Ozzie move for a couple making out. He went up and put his arms around both the guy and the girl. The girl was drunk so she made out with him. 2j ended up not wanted to try to pull the girl because he realized after he stole her this time that she was totally trashed.

I should have practice persistence:
I winged him for a decent amount of time. The friend was this tall girl who said she had a boyfriend but I number closed her anyway. Some guy that she knew showed up. She started talking to him. I gave one attempt to grab her attention off of him but she quickly went back to him. At this point, I went and tried to work the rest of the club. I came back two other times. The third time, I got her attention by busting on her for still standing in the same spot. I could tell the guy was just in the friend zone, though. In the thirty minutes I had given him, he hadn't escalated at all. She went off to the bathroom and I ended up telling her goodbye when 2j gave up on the set.

Miserable cunt:
I didn't even plan to make this report this long but once I get started... Anyway, we were walking back to Crescendo when we saw this 2-set walking towards us by Y Bar. 2j opened the cute friend. I started talking to this girl. She was probably an HB6. I would have banged her but she was a little overweight and wasn't that cute. They ended up walking by and not stopping. Of course, I kept plowing verbally. I was just being friendly. Here's what I remember of the conversation:

Girl: (She's standing like 10 feet away). Do you want me to hit you with this shoe?
Me: (I can tell she's pissed but I really believe that I can turn anything around. After all, I've had no problems dealing with guys who are pissed at me.) Hey, we're just having fun. Party time!

The girl started walking towards me at this point. When's she next to me, she punched me in the chest. I could feel it as she probably tried to punch me as hard as she could but I've had friends punch me harder just screwing around. I couldn't believe she actually punched me.

I laughed about it, but I actually feel sorry for her. She gotta be miserable in life to punch me considering I give up the most friendly party vibe. I do it to a fault sometimes and get myself into the friend zone.

I think about what I would have done if she had punched me in the face. This type of thing is just a bad situation because if I pushed her back, some moron would probably try to be a white knight and get involved even though this was entirely her fault. 2j said if she had punched me, he would have grabbed her shoe (she had been holding her shoes in one hand) and thrown it in the street.

The thing that amuses me is that after she started to walk away, that's when I started saying mean shit because I was pissed. I said, "Wow you fat bitch! What's wrong with you?"

She got mad at me for being nice and continuing to plow with them, but she ran off when I started to say mean shit. Go figure.

Edit:
Link to a thread I made on RSD about this:
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/198688

Just Practice at Joe's

2011-09-07T17:34:00.000-07:00

2j and I go to Joe's Bar just about every week. I like to say that I haven't got any real success there in all the times that I've been there. I've had fun and met some cool guys. I guess I met that one nurse that I would have banged had I just been a little more confident with kiss closing etc back in April. I ended up meeting Vinny cause of that girl so that's a plus as well.

Joe's is significantly slower since about three weeks ago. It would get so busy on the dance floor that you couldn't even move and it felt like a sauna in that area. 2j and I would usually avoid the area and just concentrate on working sets in other areas. Two weeks ago, things started to slow down. The biggest change was this week. All the Irish students that were here for the summer left as of Labor Day and that was like 25% of the crowd. A lot of college kids went back to school. You'd think this might be offset by DePaul, UIC, etc being in session but it seems to have no effect at Joe's.

There are still plenty of sets but we ran through them all by around 1am and we left.

I saw my favorite redhead again. She seems to have reconciled with her friend that she was going out with when I originally met her. 2j suggested that I try to hang out with the redhead but she's always wandering off. I guess I've exhibited the same behavior as well. She bought me a shot at one point and then she started talking to her friend so I just wandered off. I told her about the event Friday and she said to text her about it so I'm gonna try to get her to come out. I think I could make this happen if I focused on getting a one-on-one thing going with her instead of just running into her Tues and Thurs when she's with her friends.

No more fast kiss close drills necessary

2011-09-05T03:56:00.000-07:00

I was gonna make an RSD post, but I found an Tyler article that answered my question:

http://www.rsdnation.com/tyler/blog/new-vid-article-secrets-going-physical-veterans-understand-and-you-do-not

The relevant part:
The reason that "not going physical" right away works for veterans of the game is because when you get your eyes right up to the girl, she can feel the full entitlement and lack of fear to go physical. It's extremely obvious to her, in the same way it's obvious that a trained fighter can get in your face and it's obvious he's not afraid to kick your ass.

So it's in that subtlety of the lack of fluctuation in the eyes -- that sexual steadiness that the girl senses from you -- that makes her realize "Wow this guy likes me, but he's in completely control of HIMSELF AND ME."

Thank you Tyler! That's it. I was afraid to go for the kiss close. Then, I finally work through it early in the summer. I had it down and then I had a bad week and again I was a little hesitant to pull the trigger on kiss closes. Saturday and Sunday proved that I'm again past this hurdle. Now, instead of screwing up sets trying to prove to myself that I'm not afraid to go for the kiss close, I can relax a bit and make the interaction more solid. This might pop up again, at which point I'll go back to drilling, but I can stop now.

I'm not afraid to get physical, and when the girls look at me, I can hold the eye contact and be completely chill. Further evidence is how much better results I'm getting now that I'm focusing and doing this right.

Here's Tyler's Video that he discusses in the article:

Almost had a McDonald's make out but should have slowplayed it

2011-09-05T03:42:00.000-07:00

I went to this birthday party for a girl that I met back in March. 2j and one of his friends came. Initially, I was all outgoing introducing myself to people but then I got quiet. We're supposed to learn core confidence for every where, but I just didn't feel it at the party. We left early as 2j's friend said he could get us into Underground. We didn't get in so we kept trying to open girls on the street and at the bars on Hubbard to try to venue change them there and maybe to Crescendo. The night was a lot of street game which was fun was all of us were doing street approaches. I'm usually high energy and enthusiastic about street game but sometimes I want a break and both these guys stepped up.

Cute blonde at McDonald's:
Spy Bar and Crescendo said they were both at capacity. We would have had to pay cover at Crescendo which we didn't want to do so we worked street game. We went in to Rock and Roll McDonald's and I saw this blonde sit down by herself. While I might beat myself up for not being that outgoing at the party, I have to admit that I have a lot of confidence in general now. I just sat down next to her. I didn't open with the usual, "I wanted to meet you." I felt this was a day game situation and since people were listening, I opened it in the way Tyler describes opening in a crowded Starbucks. I sat down as if I knew her and said, "How was your night?"

I've got that sexual look down as it's been working great the past two days. I just gave her that look and we just locked eye contact. I did a future adventures projection and I talked about our evening thus far. The set was total on. I was holding her hand and she was comfortable with me putting my arm around her. I was gonna go for the kiss close real early. I went in and then pulled back. She said, "You want to make out with me don't you?"

I replied, "Maybe, and stroked her hair."

Run solid game vs Kiss Close Drills:
I'm puzzled about where to go with my game right now. I think I'm gonna make a post on RSDnation.com. I think the video below gives some insight but I'm torn whether I should still work on trying to get my fast escalation down or trying to do things a solidly as I can so I can try to pull. This is similar to Saturday in that I busted out of a good set by trying to practice instead of just slowplaying it and possibly or probably getting the girl.

2j commented that the girl was obviously into me and she was alone. She had left her friends at Crescendo and was here sipping a soda. What I tried to do was a few minutes later, I started blowing into her ear and went for the make out. Instead of the usual yellow light of the girl turning her face, she ran off.

2j pointed out that we were in a McDonald's. I'm don't feel any social pressure so I was willing to just make out there, but she obviously wasn't comfortable. If I had just kept the eye contact and ran some rapport game, I might have been able to pull her.

I'm thinking I shouldn't have done the kiss close drill and actually tried to get this girl. I wasted a good set.

Division:
We worked out way to Division. There was this 3-set from California that we all had hooked. My girl wanted to go to a "good bar." What I should have said is that all these places suck and we should go to Underground. Instead, I tried to take them to Mother's and they thought it sucked and ran off. We saw them again and they came into Detention but they didn't like that either. I knew all the places sucked compared to LA venues. They wanted Spy Bar, Crescendo or Underground. Unfortunately, my wings didn't hear her asking about the venue change or they could have helped.

We worked some street sets. I opened this tall blonde hard in front of Proof. Its amusing to open hotter girls because I get shit tests. I'm not used to getting them as only the hottest girls even try to shit test me any more. The first time, I got annoyed and just walked away. The second time, I plowed and ignored it. The third time, I had a ton of snappy comebacks but then got sick of the girl though she seemed to like it.

I've come so far:
When I got bombarded by shit tests in the third set, I realized how far I've come in this game. I was able to lock eye contact with that girl as she was saying all this bullshit to me and I didn't flinch. I remember when I would have felt shitty cause some girl was talking shit to me. I just laughed. It's funny and I can finally say that I do not care at all what she thinks of me. I can't believe it took all these years to reach that point.

Blowouts happen on ugly girls or when I do half effort

2011-09-04T04:09:00.000-07:00

It seems counter intuitive and it's still sinking in for me. My game is starting to work best on the better looking girls. I say that I still don't have the ridiculous girls hooking like the ones I see on Thursdays, but the better looking girls that we run into at the regular venues give me better responses than ugly or average girls.

Those in the community know that the main reason it's starting to work on hot girls is that hot girls aren't used to guys acting calm around them. Guys are either nervous or keep trying to qualify themselves to them. I stand out when I look at them with the strong eye contact and with that strong sexual intent, and I'm completely chill.

The ugly girls don't respond for several reasons. First, many have self esteem issues and when you're too high value, the community says that they don't believe it's real. They either try to sabotage it or they think you are messing with them. I remember in the distanst past when I got opened one time. I started to act weird because I couldn't believe it was happening to me. This is the old reason of your ego trying to force your existing reality upon you.

The other reason is that while I would have sex with them, if I'm not really turned on by them, the approach is different than when it's with a hottie. Jeffy even said that when they run game on girls they aren't attracted to, girls will tell them, "You must be an actor" because something just seems a little off.

It's not to say that they don't ever like me. Sometimes they make it easy. I was dancing with that large girl last week on Division and probably could have pulled her if I had my car there.

Half Effort:
Even tonight, I would sometimes sink back into half effort mode. One time, we were in front of Moe's Cantina around closing time. This girl walked by and I could see that like 5 guys were watching me, including the bouncers. I got self conscious and made a half ass effort to open a moving girl. Moving sets are hard in general. I can get them to stop sometimes when I do it right. By being awkward, I make it really hard.

Tyler has a video from the free tour where the seemingly tougher approach is actually better than the one that seems safe. I do even worse sometimes than trying to be safe. 2j saw me opening this moving set weird. I knew I should try to claw her, but I felt awkward so I reached for her hand and then brushed against her arm instead. 2j was right that I either have to grab her hand and do that method, or not try to grab her at all. The half effort was really awkward.

I know that this same mentality is why I have had problems giving my full effort. A voice inside me will tell me not to open hard and will full intent because I don't want to be awkward and then, ironically, I'll open in a way that might be the most awkward way possible. I'll be in congruent. I'll try to act confident but I'll look like I'm hesitating also. I'm better off approaching hard because at least it's congruent with my intentions. Besides that, opening hard either gets girls totally into me, or gets me blown out. Thinking about it, I'm actually just better off saying, "Hi" and opening softly instead of some of the awkward stuff I do when I'm giving half an effort.

Better effort and attitude yield results

2011-09-04T03:56:00.000-07:00

I think Saturday night was a glimpse of where my game can be if I put a good effort in every set. To warm up, I was even saying stupid shit and the self amusement really got me into state just as RSD teaches. For example, I opened this large set by saying, "Hey, it's day game! High five." Another set on the street, I opened with gibberish and just plowed.

2j and I started off at Republic. We didn't even make the free drinks but we wanted to check it out as it was showering when we met up. The place was slower than usual and no sets really stuck so we went off to Wrigley. The main action of the night took place in Barleycorn.

The first set I really hooked was this cute blonde by the stairs. It was on until her boyfriend or some guy she was with came. The guy was the typical chode. He came up there and then tried to come between us by nudging me with his arm. That shit makes me laugh. They really think they are gonna get rid of me by nudging me or giving me a look. When they are awkward like that or get pissed, it actually gives me more fuel to make them look dumb. I ignored the guy initially, and then I made fun of him by saying, "What with this?" and imitating his awkward nudging. The problem was she was into the guy so it must have been her boyfriend or some guy she liked and she turned cold and kept telling me to open other girls.

Immediately after this, I saw a blonde by the bar. 2j said this was the set I hooked the most and he described her as a solid 8. I hardly ever mention rating but I will here as he noted that and I should take some pride in myself. This was an example of what Tyler talks about when he says, "Don't try." I tried in that I went out telling myself I was gonna try to run most sets to the best of my ability, but when I opened her, I didn't try to impress her.

I just looked at her in the same way I did with the previous girl. I gave her strong eye contact and got up close to her. I said some of my usual stuff. I could tell she was really into me. I started touching the back of her neck and she seemed to get turned on. I swear she said, "I love you." Obviously, not as in she truly loved me but she was getting turned on. I tried to go for the kiss close and she wasn't ready. She grabbed the guy near her.

The guy was some friend and was cool. I talked to him for a bit. Then I was gonna go upstairs. I opened her again. I grabbed her hand and looked her in the eye and said, "Let's go upstairs." She hesitated as she wanted to but said, "Not right now." I then left.

2j's analysis: Keep plowing:
2j actually saw this whole thing go down. He said that it was obvious she was into me and the guys were giving me isolation until she pulled him over. He said that after I talked to the guy and opened her again, I had isolation and should have kept talking. He explained it's just like when you try to kiss close a girl and you get rejected. You just keep talking. I did that part but when I asked her to go upstairs, I walked away when she wouldn't. I realized that I do that often when girls don't want to dance or go to the bar. I need to just brush it off and keep talking.

2j also said in our discussion that I should decide if I'm trying to pull a girl with solid game or if I'm doing drills. He said that his experience with hotter girls is that they often are more hesitant to kiss right away, especially in front of her friends. If I wanted to drill pushing for quick kiss closes, then I should be happy with what I did. If I wanted to run solid game on her, he thinks I should have waited till I had her isolated later. Besides that, even though I did things the way I did, I should have stayed in.

Hooked blonde with boyfriend downstairs:
Just as we were about to leave the upstairs, I saw this blonde by the stairs. She was just standing there and I approached her and opened her like I was supposed to do. Again, the set was just on from me approaching, giving her the strong eye contact, and getting up on her. I spent a few minutes dancing and trying to danced with her and escalate. Like the previous girl, she was letting me touch the back of her neck. She started telling me that her boyfriend was downstairs and she had to go.

I kept plowing and pulling her back in. We were by the stairs and she actually almost slipped on a wet spot on the floor but I saved her. I didn't know what to do. I knew she liked me. I debated that she might have been saying the BF BS because she didn't want to hook up, but 2j and I discussed that and that theory makes no sense. Her boyfriend probably was downstairs. Why would she like when it was obvious she was into me? I told her to kiss me than as no one would know and at least we could remember the moment. This was the same shit I said to the girl at Joe's on time who had a boyfriend and then kissed me. She tried to kiss me on the cheek. I told her to give me a real kiss. I went for it several times but she kept making me kiss her cheek and not her mouth. I decided to just let her go so I told her have fun and walk down carefully.

Eye opening reference material:
Tonight, I got a taste of how my nights out should be provided I keep working on giving my full effort on all the sets I open when I'm out. I'm the same guy I was yesterday or the rest of this week except that I pumped my state crazy with silliness and then I made myself open properly as much as I could instead of opening with half effort. Not surprisingly, I did a whole lot better.

It surprises me how little I really did. Tyler is so right about going up to girls and not trying to impress them and just looking at them with that sexual look. You just say shit that amuses you and escalate. This wouldn't have worked until a few months ago though because now I can look at attractive girls and be completely calm and not flinch at all.

I still think I should drill kiss closes so I get completely comfortable going for the kiss. I should get more opportunities if I keep this up. Eventually, I have to abandon that and use the calibration to kiss her properly. The second hooked set was on. The guys were cool and not cockblocking and the girl was totally into me. I just needed to move her around and try to kiss later when she was isolated (perhaps on the dance floor?).

Some brilliant moments but I stay in friendly mode too often

2011-09-03T03:59:00.000-07:00

I ended up going out with Trojan- from the RSD forums. 2j was supposed to go out but he ended up meeting with some girl at the last minute. I ended up at our usual place solo until Trojan- decided to come out late. I feel like I do learn a lot solo, but it's definitely easier to go out with a wing man. Since I hadn't done solo in awhile, it took me awhile to get into state, but I made sure to start opening early.

One interesting thing is this hot blonde that I see there every week stopped me as I was walking by. I guess I was giving off good vibes from being one of the few people on the dance floor and from opening and trying to dance with a bunch of other girls. I tried sarging this girl several times over the summer but she always blew me out instantly and plowing never worked. She put her arm around me and said something that I couldn't understand. I just laughed and walked away. Later, I walked by and I stopped and gave her a high five. This time, she tried negging me by pointing at my shirt and shaking her head.

In the past, I would have lost state because of it, but I knew she was attracted to me tonight for some reason. I actually should have tried to work her more but I walked away and ended up meeting up with Trojan-.

This is how you open a hottie:
I felt awkward early on being solo. I opened a bunch of sets. I got busted out of more than usual. I had a black girl into me but she had to walk away with her friends and for some reason I didn't try again. I opened some college exchange student but that stalled. Momentum works though and I got better as I pressed forward. I was upstairs near the entrance as that is the coolest, and I mean in terms of temperature, place in the club. That place is so annoying in that it's always too hot in the downstairs area where I like to dance. I saw this hot blonde walk in with a slightly chubby friend. They went to the bar area behind me.

As I was standing by a pole, I choded out for a bit. I knew they couldn't see me so it wouldn't look like I was trying to work up the courage to approach. I told myself that if I'm gonna open, I had to do it right and believe in myself. I walk around back and saw them standing by the bar and sipping their drinks.

I think I opened with the usual, "Hey, I wanted to meet you guys." I looked at both girls in the eye but then I put my attention on the less attractive girl. I don't remember exactly what I said. I do remember that they were both attracted as they both immediately started asking me questions. I started off doing old school MM stuff of ignoring my target. After I ignored her for about 30 seconds, she started asking me questions.

At this point, I started talking to the hot girl. I always love when girls rapid fire rapport questions as I know that means it's totally on. Plus, I feel like I can just kick back and enjoy the interaction instead of plowing with stuff and hoping something hits. I remember the girls playing with each other hair and I said something like, "I think it works better if you use a brush." It sounds stupid, but they started laughing. Then, the blonde started stroking my hair.

Here's where I did something dumb. They wanted to go smoke. I swear the blonde kind of motioned me to go outside with them. I write it like that because it seems unbelievable in a way, but it shouldn't as I was being really attractive and high value up to this point. I suppose I could have went outside but I don't smoke. I figured I'd see them again but again, I ended up leaving with Trojan-.

Too much Friend to Friend BS:
I actually just received a text from Trojan- with some feedback about how he thinks I could improve. He said I need to be more dominant and he's right. I told him that I realized that ever since Jeffy commented on my missed pull. I try to convince too much instead of just leading and blowing off the token verbal objections. I also wrote several posts over the last two weeks about this very subject.

One thing I really realized today was how I often get stuck in friend to friend mode. 2j had commented about this in the past. He's seen me run good game but often I end up just being friendly instead of pushing the interaction. Fortunately, I'll have my moments when I run game properly, but tonight made me realize how much of this friend to friend stuff I do.

The eye opening moment was when I got separated from Trojan- and went into English. I ended up being in this big 4-5 set. I opened and hook the set. I was trying to decide if I wanted this girl with freckles or this tan blonde. I kept joking around the set but I never actually picked a target. I moved to another set because that set stalled out. No shit it stalled out. Jeffy demonstrated how the friend to friend shit stalls out in Jeffy Show 2 with in field video.

Trojan- found me and we went back into the set. Immediately, he was up on the girl he wanted. I remember looking over and thinking, "That's how it's done." I had been making excuses for myself in my head: I didn't know which girl to choose and I needed to entertain the whole 5-set, and so on. No, I was just stuck in friend to friend mode. I won the 3 girls over within a few minutes. I needed to choose one girl and focus on her man to woman.

Seeing him in that set made me realize I needed to get back into man-to-woman mode.

Buying temperature transfers:
We went downstairs and Trojan- later commented that I was doing value scanning. I explained to him that he wasn't really pointing out a sticking point as that's usually not an issue for me. I knew I was doing it at the bar. Anyway, I opened some girls and then suddenly this cute blonde from a table walked up to order a drink. I had seen her in this mixed set with 2 girls and 2 guys.

When she got close to the bar, I opened her man-to-woman. I grabbed her hand and got all up on her like I saw Tyler do in his latest video that included some a short in field video burst. Of course, I had a better result from this set. It was on. I was dancing with her and grinding her a bit while she waited to order a drink. I had my arm around her at times and I was caressing the back of her neck. I probably should have went to kiss her but I kept thinking about the guy in the set she was in.

She was comfortable with me but at one point, she went back to the table and brought the guy over. Two things happened I think. First, I had a small window to escalate and it closed. Initially, I thought the set might be a pickup but I saw them all leave together when the bar closed. It looked like they all went out together as opposed to it being a pickup. The second point is that I think she felt bad for being high buying temperature with me at the moment and grabbed the guy to bring her back to reality. I guess I could have tried to tool the guy when she came back with him but I just gave up and opened another set when I saw her get him.

I'm an escort:
It's funny that I feared opening a prostitute by accident and even made a post about it on the forums. Tonight, it happened and it wasn't even a big deal. I opened this chubby girl that was cute and looked good in this outfit on Division. I was making strong eye contact with her. She was weird, though, as she kept backing up as I tried to get closer. I figured it was because she wasn't comfortable yet.

We kept talking and she started asking me what I wanted. I think she knew what I wanted by the eye contact and me trying to kino her. She ended up saying, "I'm an escort." I replied, "Well, I don't want that." What I wish I would have said would be something like, "Yeah, I want to do crazy things with you, but I don't wanna pay." Then I would have got upon her and giving her crazy eye contact and told her I would do naughty things to her and she could tell me her fantasies, etc. Something like that... I would have banged her for free even though she was an escort. Some guys wouldn't but I would.

If I had a closer place:
I opened these two black girls. The one was into me and I was kino escalating fast as it was late. The bars were closing and I threw out food. She said she wanted to keep drinking. I told her that all the places were closed and the only place to drink would be an after party. I tried telling her she could come over and we'd watch movies and have drinks. The friend had been on the phone and started to pull her away. I caught up to my target and grabbed her hand but the moment was gone and she told me she wasn't interested.

I saw two weeks ago how the close place helps. I almost had that Norwegian girl come to 2j's place because it was so close. If I lived as close as he did, I think I could have pulled that 2-set by just telling them about the after party and saying it was a block away. That doesn't mean I'd get laid, but at least they'd come over and that's part of the battle.

Totally plastered sarging Thursday

2011-09-03T03:09:00.000-07:00

I've been talking about taking the Metra train into downtown so I could really get drunk. I'll sometimes drink and then take the Blue Line to my car but I always have to count drinks so I'm sober by the time I get to the car. I finally took the train Thursday night. I can only do this on weekdays as the first train on weekdays is at 539am, while it's like 6:30am on Saturdays and 7:20 on Sundays.

I also wanted to try this drinking protocol from the leangains.com blog:
http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/truth-about-alcohol-fat-loss-and-muscle.html

Basically, you eat almost all protein, and take in very little fat and carbs, and then you can drink as much as you want. The smart way is to drink something like spirits (Vodka & Diet Coke was my drink), so you don't get tag along carbs from say beer or from drinking Vodka & Cranberry. You shouldn't gain any fat really if you do this sparingly, like once a week a most. He explains the reasons for his protocol in the article. I know the guy is reputable because the Diet/Fitness guru I trust says the guy is reputable.

On a side note, the guru I follow is "Lyle McDonald" at bodyrecomposition.com. I discovered him back when I used to read the misc.fitness.weights newgroups. The guy always backed up whatever he claimed with actual citations to human studies. He doesn't just regurgitate the standard crap you hear from nutritionists, magazine articles etc. A lot of that crap just gets repeated even though the studies don't back it up, or new studies have come out disproving it.

Anyway, I got fucked up. I did well in that I didn't go crazy and get gyros like I normally would do when I get drunk. I did screw up a bit when I had some beers instead of sticking with my Vodka & Cranberries.

I met up with 2j and his roommate and Vinny showed up later. We started at Spy Bar for Free drinks, then we went across the street to Sound Bar for the free drinks there . The text said open bar 10-12, but 2j was right when he warned we would only get 4 drink tickets at Sound Bar.

I must have been really trashed as I have some missing memory. That happens so rarely to me: I've probably only had a blackout only a few times in my life. I just don't remember actually leaving Sound Bar and going back to Spy Bar. I just remember being back at Spy Bar. 2j took off and didn't tell me and I ended up alone at Spy Bar.

I don't really remember what I was doing except that I was opening sets. My best set was this cute black girl that I stopped and started grinding with.

I walked to McDonalds and got a Coke Zero to try to prevent dehydration. I then walked to Union Station. I always feared that it would suck to wait for the 539am train but it wasn't bad. I'll do it again but I don't think I want to get this fucked up again.

When I got back to my place around 7am, I was still drunk as I remember yelling dumb shit in the shower. I then woke up around 11am and felt like my head was spinning. I had to bring some water to my bed so I could lie down in between taking sips of it. I couldn't sleep for a few hours and the only thing I could do was surf the internet on my phone while lying down. Fortunately, I felt better when I got up at 6pm Friday.

Tues: Number Close & Grinding with black girl

2011-08-31T03:36:00.000-07:00

Tonight is another one of those nights were nothing much happened. I did learn that the Field Museum is free Wednesday. I was talking to this chubby girl and I found out she loves museums. I tried number closing her but I did it while her friends were dragging her away. Later, I saw here in the beer garden. She was drunk and seemed high buying temperature. Her fat black friend kept pulling her away. I had a few minutes and I think I should have went for the kiss close.

There was this other 3-set that 2j and I worked. Girl was cute but overweight. She was fun and I was quickly able to transition the conversation towards sex. The whole set had to leave early (It was like 11PM) cause they work early in the morning (like 6-7am). I number closed her and you would think this will be a girl I should be able to meet again but you never know.

The highlight was this very attractive black girl. Again, it was a black girl who was thin and had a nice ass: not the huge kind like some guys like, but a nice, smaller firm one that fit her frame. I remember seeing her standing by the bar near the dance floor. I grabbed and started dancing with her. She was all giggly. I figured she had friends around so I dragged her to the center of the dance floor. I think I could have went for the kiss close. We were face to face and looking into each others eyes after grinding for a bit and my mind told me I should think about it. I stalled and then she said she had to go back to her friend. 2j and I talked about it and we concluded I should have went for it.

Later, I saw the set walk by as I was waiting for 2j in the hallway. It was the hot black girl and this girl. We did a Gunwitch and waited for them to get settled and then I opened. Girl was all happy again. I tried to isolate her off to the dance floor again. As we were walking I tried for the number close but she said she had a boyfriend. Then, she said she was with a friend of her boyfriend.

I can be happy with the fact that I did improve her day. I saw her by the boyfriend's friend later. She looked so bored and the guy was just standing there. Guys are so full of shit. I opened her and then I opened him. I asked him, "What wrong man? You don't like the music?" He said, "She with me." Liar, lol. I just laughed and said, "Okay, what does that have to do wit having fun?" he admitted he didn't like the music.

It just amuses me that I know his story yet he lied pretending he was with her. Anyway, she had a great time when I took her on the dance floor and when I was talking to her up front. 2j got along well with the friend and she was into his sexual talk. He said she seemed interested in coming over, but then she stood up and he realized she was too large for his tastes. I told him, "Man, there's another waste of a set." Had I gone for her, I might have gotten a hook up, but of course, I wanted the hot black girl.

I saw my favorite redhead with her Latina friend. I said hi to her early on. Later, I saw her on the dance floor dancing with the friend. I went up and started dancing in front of her and grabbed her hands. The friend pulled her away and she walked away. She's weird sometimes. She'll give me a cold response like that and then later, she'll dance with me. I guess she's the typical ADD girl who's always in different states throughout the night.

2j pointed out how she walked by later in the hallway and I said, "Hey" and she stopped for a second like she was expecting to talk. He said I could have gone outside with her to the smoking area and had isolation with her. I guess I should push more in text or phone game to try to meet up with her outside of our usual spots. I tried pushing for her to come to First Fridays in Wicker but she told me she had plans to go to some club instead.

Anyway, not much really happened tonight, but I end up writing a bunch anyway. I had fun and we ended up leaving early. I should have joined this gym a long time ago. I got home and was able to go work out. It's great going at 3am as there was only one person there and I pretty much have the place to myself.

Sex talk, 2-sets with 2j, & Sarging cures

2011-08-30T03:32:00.000-07:00

Tonight, I only learned a few things, but I make this post for completeness. I almost didn't go out, but Seagull said he was going out and 2j said he'd go out too. I was in a shitty mood. In "The Game," Style wrote "Tyler thinks sarging cures all." I definitely was in a better mood after going out, but I can also thank the alcohol. Socializing was part of it as I started to better on the ride to the bar just from talking to 2j.

I opened a bunch of sets including this really tall girl (like she was over 6ft without heels). I got busted out, and 2j coined a nickname for the girl, "Palm Tree." She busted me out on the opener but I still tried to plow.

The main part of the night was when we met this 2-set. 2j got this Indian girl he met last week to come out and she had a chubby blonde who was from out of town. We ate some free pizza and then went to this after hours place. None of my usual stuff clicked with the girl.

She was every open about sex and for once, I was actually comfortable just talking about it. The place showed porno on the TV so it was easy to bring it up in the conversation. She told me that the Indian girl was a virgin when they met a few years ago and supposedly the blonde taught her to become crazy with sex.

The one thing the blonde said that turned me off is how she doesn't like to use condoms. She said she'd rather not have sex than use on. I know a lot of girls are willing to do without and that's why I won't do girls raw unless I really know them. I still would have banged her but I like girls that focus on safe sex.

The set was frustrating because the blonde ended up not being into me. The place was busy but it was mostly guys and there were only like two hot girls in the whole place. I opened some sets later and one fat girl was annoying because she shit test me with, "Buy me a drink." I just laughed, but I got a little annoyed. Hots girls don't even shit test me that anymore and some ugly girl was giving me that BS.

Anyway, I again got a lesson in positivity. I complained to 2j on the way home that lately, I always seem to be the guy that the girl doesn't like in the 2-set. Of course, that was just me being negative. Yeah, that happened here and with an ugly Latina two Sundays ago. Why even focus on that shit? I know the only reason I think about that is that negative part of me wants to focus on it.

It's useless brain energy. Besides that, I should know that it's not even true. Every girl won't like me: that's a fact. Hot blondes like the one on Saturday can be into me right of the bat and some uglier girls can just hate me. In fact, as I've gotten better, more average girls don't respond well to me while the number of hot girls that do has increased.

I just would like the 2-set pull to work sometime with 2j. I'm sure it will. Again, I shouldn't focus on the negative. There have been 2-sets that liked me and whatever wing I was with. There have been girls in 2-sets where the hotter one liked me.

Tonight was fun though. I got out of my shit mood and I learn a few small lessons.

Tall hot blonde, PR girl with a boyfriend, and a really cute redhead

2011-08-28T04:19:00.000-07:00

The last two days are proof that the shitty week was just a fluke. I think I created that shitty week cause my ego was fighting my new reality. During that week, I almost thought that maybe all the great responses I've been getting were just a fluke. No, it's obvious that shitty nights are rare now. Most of the time, multiple girls are really attracted to me. Perhaps, another reason was I kept having the fail attitude that if I didn't pull, it wasn't a success.

Pumped BT too much on tall hot blonde:
2j and I warmed up on a few sets. We got good responses but unfortunately the two sets we chose to warm up with were married sets. Then, we got into a long 2-set that we both number closed. 2j's girl was really into him as she text him when they went upstairs to the dance floor area as we had told them we were going there when we left the set. Mine was a decent looking girl who was super tall.

The first set I opened upstairs was this big 5 set with a tall, hot blonde. When I get shit responses on the dance floor, I have to remember sets like this. I beat myself up about that tall blonde from Monday, but this blonde was way hotter. She liked me immediately and we were dancing. Even though it was early, I pulled her into me. I sometimes complain that I often have a hard time dancing with tall girls. This girl was perfect: when I pulled her in, my leg perfectly put pressure on her pussy as we moved together to the music.

Of course, as she was super hot, I was getting so turned on. She was getting turned on by the leg stimulation. This was a screw up. I pumped her buying temperature way to high and her friends were around and just starting their evening. She was into it, but I could tell that she realized things were getting crazy and she ended up running off. I think I probably should have went for the make out since I pumped her up that much. It all happened so quickly though.

Gunwitch style red head:
We were standing on the street when I spotted this redhead. It's amazing how my RAS/radar tunes into redheads so quickly. She was across the street. Gunwitch talked about using a "silent stalk" for day game. If you're at a mall, for example, and you see a hot girl walking the opposite direction, his advice is to wait to see where she goes and then open as opposed to trying to stop her as she passes by. The reason is why do the poor probability opener (moving set in opposite direction) when you can wait for a better opportunity.

They went across the street into this bar. I often go to that bar cause it's the bathrooms have no line and there's no attendant. I asked 2j to open the set while I took a piss. When I came out, he hadn't opened it. He hadn't been choding around: he had a good point that they were still ordering their drinks and dealing with the credit card. He ended up opening them when they found a table and settled down.

This two set actually consisted of quality girls. The were both smart and well travelled. My redhead turned out to be Polish. My good Polish friend always told me that there are a lot of redheads in Poland, but I've never seen any here. I assumed this girl was Irish so I was shocked when she was Polish.

I'm hoping I can set up a Day 2. I got some light kino in but I didn't really get to pump her state as we just chilling at the table. She was into me. You would think I could make something happen here as she's new to Chicago and she was interested in a bunch of the stuff that I talked about: art festival, jazz music at MCA, restaurants, etc.

Puerto Rican Girl with boyfriend:
2j and I had this 2-set by the dance floor area before the redhead set. There was a Latino guy with them as well who was with this tall blonde. My target was cold to me at first but I kept plowing. I saw 2j's girl was into him and I just felt like I could plow. The Latino guy and the blonde went outside for a smoke and we had isolation with these two girls.

"You're good," she said as I locked eye contact with her and moved closer.

Prior to this, she had opened up a bit. She had been serious looking but I slowly got her to open up and she was smiling and dancing to the music. When the couple left, I had her against a wall. I gave her my sexual look with strong eye contact and she said the line above and seemed to melt. She really wanted the kiss but when I got closer she kept resisting.

Later, when we left the set, it all made sense. 2j's girl had been into him too. When the couple left, he said she had opened up as well. What I didn't know is that our targets had boyfriends, and the couple knew their boyfriends. That's why they dropped buying temperature as soon as the couple returned. It also explained why my girl was so into me but kept pushing me back. It was weird at the time because I knew I was reading the signs correctly, yet she wouldn't let me kiss her.

Average night & Postive/Negative attitude:
Realistically, this seems to be our average night out. I get several sets where the girls are really into me. I sometimes get frustrated when I don't get a kiss close or don't pull, but that's just being results oriented. I should be happy when I pushed things along and did my best. Pulls and kiss closes have a random element to them. If the PR girl had been single, we would have been making out like crazy. If I had met the redhead in a dance floor situation, we probably would have made it. It almost felt like day game when we were talking as the bar music was low and it was very bright where we met that set.

I had a great attitude today and my results were better as a result. There were plenty of negative things I could have focused on and would have focused on had I still been in that mood I had last week. For example, some average looking tall girl made fun of me as we were walking to the car. I had seen this redhead walking and texting. I started talking to her as I walked by her and I put my palm in front of her phone briefly as a joke. I do that all the time and the girls usually giggle. The redhead didn't care, but this tall girl was standing about 10 feet away and she gave me shit when she saw this.

I just shrugged and the miserable girl said, "Are you single? You know what, I know that you are for sure after that."

I just laughed because I knew she was being ridiculous. 2j said part of him wanted to bitch the girl out as she was being obnoxious. My point in telling this story is that having a positive, as opposed to negative, attitude is key. That girl was so out of line compared to the reactions I get that it was comical. Last week, I would have focused on that and felt shitty about myself.

I can't even care about what she says because I know I get good responses most of the time. As I said, tonight, I had that hot blonde totally into me until I pumped her BT too much. I had a cute PR girl wanting me. I then had a really cute redhead into me and on top of that, she had several of the qualities that I really want in a girl. I'm not gonna focus on what some average looking, miserable girl says about it. I laugh about it, but I know it doesn't reflect my reality anymore.

Angry buffed orbiter & Indiana Chode

2011-08-28T03:46:00.000-07:00

I like to say I'm open minded and nonjudgemental. That's true except for one thing: I really dislike chodes and I can almost say I hate jealous orbiters. I think it reminds me too much of my old AFC days. On top of that, many are just miserable from having no success with women. Of course, I understand their mentality too well from my own experiences, but I look at them as guys who failed to evolve. There are resources that weren't around when I was growing up for pickup, etc. Of course, most of these guys are too socially conditioned and close minded to every be able to learn this stuff.

I had two example today and I didn't even get into any AMOG confrontations which would be why you would think I would write this post.

Buffed Cab Chode:
As I was driving to the expressway, this cab stopped next to me. Some angry, buffed chode was sitting in the front of the cab and three girls were in the back. The two girls were smiling at me and yelling stuff at me. They motioned for me to roll down the window. I decided to have fun and complied. Angry chode said this and said, "Honestly, you are better off keeping the window rolled up."

I just laughed at him and said, "Wow dude, you should try to have fun." The girls were flirting with me. Thinking back, I could have considered getting out of the car and trying to kiss close one while we waited for the light. I bet angry chode would have gotten mad.

I know why angry chode is so miserable. It's obvious, especially cause he's stuck in the front seat. He's a babysitter orbiter that hangs out with those girls. He secretly wants them and doesn't get any action from them. He's jealous that I'm just some random dude in a car and the girls are flirting with me while he hangs out with them and they don't want to do shit with him except be friends.

I wish JW would have been in the car. Angry chode was a decent looking white guy with big arm muscles and the girls are waving and flirting with me. LOL.

Indiana chode:
As we were calling it a night, we ran into two girls sitting on the sidewalk. I opened them and we ended up learning that they had come to Chicago from Indiana with some guy. The guy had gotten jealous and left them there. The cute blonde new the guy since she was 13 but she had a boyfriend (and it's not that guy). The other girl was single. Neither girl gave the guy any play.

I laughed that he threw his chode fit and left them there, and then came in a cab to come scoop them up because he couldn't even stick with his anger and leave them there. He might actually have been better off stranding them so they would never speak to him again and he wouldn't have to be stuck in that situation.

The brunette was on the phone looking for rides when I first opened them. Eventually 2j came in. I told him he should have plowed while she was on the phone but he didn't have the energy at the time. When he started talking, of course, she got into him. I was pushing for them to come have drinks at his place and the brunette finally agreed. Unfortunately, it was when chode arrived with the cab as I had given him the right direction. 2j was right that I could have lied about what streets were on so the dude wouldn't have found them right away.

Drunken Sarging and Make outs

2011-08-27T04:34:00.000-07:00

I got totally plastered again Friday because my college friends again had a free food and drink package. Nothing really happened at that bar except that 2j and I warmed up. When we got to our usual spot, we were in the zone.

Honestly, I can't see what you're doing wrong after you hook sets:
That's what 2j told me in a text today. I told him that I knew the answer. I was in a negative mood for a few days, but besides that, I sometimes just don't escalate fast enough. Sometimes I do the friendly vibe too much, but when I'm not in that zone, I do open with strong eye contact and I get right up on the girls. This is good but I think it comes across as in congruent when I don't proceed to escalate fast enough when I'm pushing it otherwise. TD/Owen said in his one video that it's one thing to purposely slow the escalation when you already know how to kiss close fast. My problem is that I want to kiss girls and they can't tell I'm stalling. I've known that if I start wondering if it I should kiss the girl, then it's time to do it.

Kclose the first set at our usual spot:
We walked in and saw JW and his date that he met from online. We got our drinks and 2j opened this girl with short hair. I came into wing him and I started talking to this blonde. It felt really on from the opener. I was up close to her and we were gazing into each other's eyes. I started to feel that I should kiss her and because I was drunk, I just went for it. I know if I had been sober, I would have stalled. You should have the girl isolated to kiss close as it's easier. I had her a little bit away from the friends but I really like to have her completely isolated to go for the kiss. I also might made another excuse by telling myself that we just walked in and it was still early so I shouldn't go for the kiss.

She liked the kiss. I made out with her several times throughout the night when I saw her on the dance floor. The logistics were shitty though. She was with two friends and 2j said the friend kept blowing him off after the initial interaction. They lived an hour away and had driven to the bar, plus my car was parked off the blue line.

So many missed kiss closes:
I thought about last Saturday and the past two weeks. I had several moments similar to the one I had with the blonde over the past two weeks. Yes, this is even during that streak where I had a negative attitude. I just have to go for the kiss if I my mind thinks about it. I know getting rejected isn't a big deal and most of the time, it increases the attraction because I'll react properly when she doesn't go for it.

Even with the cute redhead on Wednesday, I missed a kiss close. Recall that I was dancing with her and I kissed her neck. She put her hand on my chest and pushed me away slightly but she also looked at me and smiled and kept dancing with me. We were by the wall and I think the move was to get up on her, grind her a bit, and then push her against the wall and go for the kiss. I think there's a good chance that would have worked.

The bottom line is that my early game is solid now most of the time and I have to start reaping the rewards.

Opened at the end of the night & tried to pull:
We went to run street game at Division. JW wanted to walk into this one bar. As I was walking on the dance floor, this girl grabbed my arm. She was chubby but I decided that I'm not gonna waste a good opportunity. It's so rare for me to get opened that I'm gonna push the interaction. I sort of got opened Thursday and I didn't go for it because they girl wasn't attractive, but I regretted it Friday.

The girl immediately started grinding with me. Even though she was fat, I was turned on. I spun her around, and had her switch positions. Later, I kissed her neck and then went for the make out. Of course, she wanted it.

I tried to figure out logistics. Her cousin had driven her and she lived by the airport: unfortunately, the other airport and not the one I live by. My car was by the blue line so that was out. Again, thwarted by not having my car, but that's the price of wanting to get wasted at the food/drink deal earlier. I tried to get her cousin to drive me and I tried selling a food extraction. The girl told me to call her though. I'll try even though I want more attractive girls.

It's still cool to get two make outs:
Yeah, the second one wasn't attractive, but I feel like I'm back in action. Again, on many of the busy nights, I usually get several good sets. The opportunities for kisses have been there, but I often stalled or didn't pull the trigger. I even think back to the two redheads a few Wednesday ago where I didn't get to kiss because of interference from the friends of the girls. I was setting up the kiss, but those times too, I could have pulled the trigger sooner and probably gotten make outs.

Anyway, now that I'm more conscious of what I need to do again, I should be kissing more girls. Kissing more girls should mean pull opportunities again.

Thurs FR: Number closed my fav redhead

2011-08-27T04:14:00.000-07:00

Thursday I went out with Vinny and 2j. The highlight of the night was I finally number closed my favorite redhead. To me, she's so sexy. I can't believe it's taken me this long. I probably should have pushed harder for them to come with us to Spy Bar as they seemed bored of their usual Thursday after hours place. They were thinking about hitting Leg Room but that place sucks on Thursday, especially compared to Spy bar.

I was surprised how much braver I'm getting with dance floor game sober. I remember walking up to this cute brunette and I just started dancing with her. We grinded right away. I was moving her hair so I could try to kiss her neck and she lifted up her hair for me. She shook her head when I kissed her neck though, but whatever.

The other set was this tall girl with a little extra weight on her. I opened her when she was sitting down and it was obvious she was high buying temperature. We tried again later but her friends tried to push me to buy drinks and I busted out cause I didn't want to do it.

At Spy Bar, Trojan- met up with us. It's funny how he admits that the girls at Spy Bar are a little intimidating. 2j's game shuts down there too. I tell them that opening is easy: it's the same shit. Yeah, you get busted out faster but ultimately, it's the same game.

I'm definitely feeling more entitled to hotter girls and I anticipate having success there soon.

One short set that sticks out made me realize how strong of an alpha vibe I can put out. This tall cutie was walking by and I just started yelling at her, "Hey, you come here!" It was an imitation of something TD/Owen sometimes does. I thought she was walking away but she walked around some people and I yelled and motioned for her to come over. She then came over.

Unfortunately, I looked all alpha, but when she came over, I turned chode. I just introduced myself. I think I should have just pulled her in and just looked at her and busted her on something or made her qualify herself to me. In any case, it was a lesson of how being dominant really does work, even with hotties.

Better Mood & Grinded with a redhead

2011-08-25T03:11:00.000-07:00

I was actually in a good mood today. Starting lifting made me feel great because I was living up to my standards. I'm enjoying the weight loss but I know it doesn't do shit for sarging at this point. Exercise only helps me because I just feel good doing it but the actual physical looks improvement has no effect.

It was slow when JW and I started. I actually love when the dance floor is empty because we can DHV by getting out there. I know the girls see that and they know we have confidence to do that. I talked to this black dude who was dancing too. He made a comment about how he doesn't understand how people come to the club and sit around looking bored.

That made me think: there were a bunch of hots girls there. They aren't as confident as we sometimes think they are. Society and guys give them validation but many are afraid to be out on the dance floor solo. How do I doubt myself when I have the confidence now to go out there cause I don't care what people think about me and I'm comfortable with myself.

Act like you would if you were awesome:
I know there's no more room for self doubt when I'm out. I did it for too many days in a row and I got shit results and was negative. I can evaluate myself honest when I make these reports but I need to believe I'm the coolest guy in the club when I'm out in the field. Sometimes I found myself not wanting to do something and then I asked myself, "If I were the coolest guy here, what would I do?" I realized I'd believe that the girls wanted me. I found myself being even more brave on the dance floor. I got finally did what Seagull always pushed me to do before: I went and danced right in between two girls on the dance floor. I also tried to look at girls in the way TD/Owen describes. I tried to look at them like I would if I banged hotties all the time. I'd look at them like I was curious about them, like I'm evaluating if they are cool enough to be in my movies. I don't look at them like "OMG this girl is so hot, how can I prove myself?"

Redhead set:
As we walked in the club, we walked to the bouncer as three girls were there. They showed their ID's. The bouncer recognized us from earlier so he let us in. As I was walking by, I opened the redhead and then walked in. JW and I went to the dance floor. We were dancing and a few minutes later, we saw the 3-set near us.

"Look at you guys following us," I joked. I then started dancing by them. JW started dancing with the black girl. I was by the redhead and this cute little brunette. I danced with both of them but I started to focus on the redhead, of course. She was fine with me pulling her into me. I started to get closer and soon we were grinding. I turned her around and she started grinding her ass on me. It amuses me that every time girls feel that I'm getting hard, they grind my cock even more aggressively.

Here is where I needed another wing. I entertained the brunette a bit but she started to get bored and eventually sat down. I danced with the redhead for a bit but then she wanted to keep her company.

I think I screwed up here. I sat down by the brunette and said something and then I got up and started dancing cause it was a cool song. It's debatable what the move is here: I could just dance and walk off as a high value guy would, or I could have sat down and build come rapport with verbal game. The only issue that I can think of now is that it was too loud to run it as a 2-set so the brunette might get bored again.

There's my set:
I lost track of the set for awhile but saw them again by the couches. I actually thought mine was dancing with a guy. I pointed the set out to JW and said I was gonna bust the guy out. He then said my girl was dancing alone. The girls were dancing between this couch and this table. Some Indian dude and another guy were dancing near them.

Again, I acted like I would if I were the shit. I just went over and started dancing by my girl. I grabbed her hand and got closer but it was awkward cause there's wasn't much space. I was about to move her; as that thought came into my head, the redhead pointed to the open area.

I started grinding with my girl and then the black girl at one point sandwiched me in between her and the redhead. It's just dance floor stuff but it feels good. I'm so glad I've finally been able to get comfortable with dance floor game. This never would have happened until this year.

2j and Vinny showed up. I wanted 2j to work the brunette but he hit it off with the black girl and ended up number closing her. My girl pulled the brunette to dance on the table. I think the brunette didn't like JW that much as it looked like a rescue pull. JW kept trying and props to him for that. At this point, Vinny saw my girl and started to approach . I stopped him and said, "That's my girl. Go for the brunette."

2j and I actually talked about how Vinny, when he's drunk, comes in and starts talking to our targets sometime. We don't think he does it to be a dick. The fact that he backs off when I call him out on it shows that he's just being himself and not trying to steal the girl from me.

Kiss close?:
I think my mistake might have been I should have went for the kiss close. At one point, we were dancing face to face. The redhead started holding her hair in a way the exposed her neck. I had been breathing into her neck and ear. I put my hand behind her head and pulled her close and kissed her neck. She put her hand on my chest, but then she smiled and stood there. She liked it. I should have went for the make out but I stalled and the brunette created a distraction.

The girls sat down on the couch. There was a bit of room in between the black girl and my redhead. I know there were times when I'd be scared to sit there. I hesistated for about 10 seconds and then just sat down. One of the girls said something about me sitting there but I couldn't even hear exactly what she said. I could tell she was telling me not to sit but I just plowed through that and it was fine. I started talking to my girl. I mentioned travel and she qualified herself to me by showing all the stamps in her passport.

I tried to number close her but she said she had a boyfriend. I asked again later and it was no go. I think she really did have a boyfriend. It was obvious she was into me. That being the case, I should have went for the make out. I need practice on going for it again so I pull the trigger faster like I had been doing just a week ago. Also, since she has a boyfriend, the only move I had would be to try to makeout with her and pump her buying temperature enough for a pull tonight.

Closing thoughts:
I'm finally out of the losing mentality that I had been on since last Thursday. It's about time. I think cool things will happen now that I'm in a better mind set. It's perfect timing too as I should see my favorite redhead this Thursday. I have to number close her if I see her as this slow play has gone long enough. I should feel comfortable talking to her as I have more adventures this week again.

Saw a motorcyclist flip into the front of a convertible

2011-08-25T02:49:00.000-07:00

It's crazy what you see sometimes. JW and I went to Spy Bar and decided to talk a walk as it was early and the place was slow. We were gonna check out Crescendo but my free cover deal ran out at Midnight. Anyway, we were standing near the BP by Rock N Roll McDonald's. We had just crossed the street and JW had commented about how the guy in the convertible seemed to be in a great mood.

I saw the light turn green and the guy start inching forward. Suddenly, I saw this bike rear end him. I think the rider must have seen the light turn green and he let of his brakes and didn't realize he was that close to the car. We heard a big crash and I saw the dude flip over and land head first into the passenger seat. The guy was wearing a helmet which is smart. It's not required by law in IL and I see too many idiots without one.

He was riding with friends and they pulled him out and carried him to the sidewalk. He'll live but he seemed hurt as he couldn't stand up.

The ambulance came in like 4 minutes as I was immediately on my phone with 911 about a second after it happened.

Joined a gym with free pizza once a month & My diet/exercise plan

2011-08-25T02:35:00.000-07:00

I found this good deal at a Planet Fitness near me. It was $99 for a year while the park district was $150. It doesn't have a big free weight section which turns off hard core lifters, but it's awesome for my needs. It's open from 12 midnight Mondays-Friday 9pm and Sat & Sun 7am-7PM. That's awesome hours for my lifestyle. It's better hours than the park district place which means I'll get good use of it. Also, it has more equipment than park district. It fits my needs. I'm just lifting to maintain lean body mass as best I can (coupled with adequate protein intake).

I'm at about 177lbs now. I lost 13 pounds since my roommate moved out, and like 8 lbs in the last month. When I get to about 150, I'll consider if I wanna work on building muscle mass. Right now, I'm enjoying doing a lot of cardio. I started riding my bicycle three weeks ago and I'm up to doing 4 hours rides. Adding biking kick started my running program too. It was so much easier when I started biking and also watching my diet.

My plan is to diet for a month. Around my birthday, I should be at about 170 and I should fit into a bunch of my old clothes that my ex girlfriend bought me. I'll take a 14 day diet break eating at maintenance and then try to lose 10 lbs by Christmas. I think I should be at 150 early next year and then I'll reevaluate my goals.

Free Pizza:
I found this thread on bodybuilding.com ripping on my gym:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=122098191

Planet Fitness gives free pizzas the first Monday of each month (well 2nd Monday cause of Labor Day in Sept) and free bagels the second Tuesday of every month (apparently in the morning). I'm gonna get my money's worth with that. My $10 a month is worth if for just the free pizza I'll eat once a month. I'll fit it into my diet program too: I won't eat anything that day and then ingest 3000 calories on Mondays. Mondays are usually my long run days anyway so I'll more than cover it. Also, since I don't get ESPN at home, I'm considering going to the gym to watch Monday Night Football and just doing cardio for 3 hours.

I'm not that excited about the bagels, especially cause I heard they do it in the morning. The pizzas are in the evening. Still, when I start doing refeeds (a high carb load promoted by Lyle McDonald in his books and his site bodyrecomposition.com that's backed by a bunch of studies), I can set it up for free bagel day.

I figure even with going just twice a week to the gym (as that's all I'm gonna do for weights right now), I'm gonna get great value of out this membership. In the winter, I'll do some runs on the treadmill and some at the park district track so I'll be in there more.

Need to be quicker on kcloses & Too much of anything...

2011-08-24T00:47:00.000-07:00

Too much of anything is bad...even sarging. I told my wings that I need a break. I'm going out Wed-Sat and then I'm gonna focus on other things. This doesn't mean I'm gonna stop going out: there is only one path for me and sarging is a key part of that. I'm just not gonna go out 5-7 days a week anymore. In some ways, I've felt that if I'm not going out, I'm not progressing, but there is a such thing as burn out. Also, I'm not missing much on dead days. I can even go out for a few hours those days but I don't have to stay out all night.

I was positive for the most part, but I could feel myself just getting sick of doing the same shit. I had fun when I just messed around with dumb openers. Funny thing is I got busted out for once with my "No speak English opener" and I had more fun with doing that then some of the longer sets I had when I opened normally.

Last night wasn't really bad but I suppose I was triggered by seeing that Irish girl from Friday. I hate seeing her because it reminds me of how she didn't like me.

I had two good interactions. I stopped a moving blonde and took it man-to-woman. She was really into me until she had to go to the bathroom. She was on her way to the bathroom so I should have expected this. The other set was this little Irish girl. Again, I was all up on her and she was liking it.

On the ride home, I think my mistake was I didn't try to kiss close her. I tried isolating her and that didn't work, but she was responding well to all my kino escalation. I should have gone for it. The fact that I did ponder it for a second means it was time.

My kiss closing was right on just two weeks ago. Not having made out with a girl in awhile has made me hesitant to pull the trigger. I'm gonna focus on fixing that. I guess I'm too hard on myself. I did make out with that Irish girl Friday for 5 seconds till she pushed me away and said she just wanted to be friends. Prior to that, I briefly kissed that girl last Tuesday who had a boyfriend.

Again, I've been focusing on the negatives instead of the positives. It felt good to have some decent sets but they could have been better had I been ready to pull the kiss close trigger. I guess I have to go back to the old goal of trying to kiss close every set. I was starting to work on pulling, but I can't get pull practice if I'm hesitant to kiss close quickly again.

Finally, I think Wednesday I'm gonna focus on just speaking nonsense. Another reason I'm sick of my interactions is I keep telling some of the same stories. I have some good verbals but it's time to try talking about something else. Maybe I'll just try to work on sexual talk; that's a big part of 2j's game and it's something I could improve. I'd rather get busted out working at that Wednesday that saying the same bullshit that I'm sick of saying.

Strong Eye Contact through restaurant window

2011-08-23T01:59:00.000-07:00

Normally, I wouldn't even post about this, but I need to pull all the good out the last few days. I forgot until now that as I was walking back to my car in Wrigley, I looked into Pick Me Up Cafe (it's really name that and I should have tried to pick up in there). I locked eye contact with this girl. She was in a booth and on the other side was a couple. Her head turns as I walked by and she waved at me.

I hate to admit that I didn't walk in. I was really off from all the BS lately. I've opened sets eating pizza that didn't give me massive approach invitation like this. It's really dumb that I didn't go in, but let's take the positive.

Again, I need to focus on all the cool things that happened despite all the bad things. Here is another example of why I shouldn't doubt myself. I'm definitely putting out a good vibe when I get instant attraction like this.

I feel better already with just these three posts. I'm sure I'll be positive Tuesday night. Of course I'll experience rejection. That's part of the game. I just have to be immune to it like I usually am.

This is all bullshit self hate

2011-08-23T01:44:00.000-07:00

I did a quick look again at my blog entry titles from the past two months to remind me of the good, heck some were great, experiences I had. Yes, I've been triggered by some bad experiences, but I'm feeling shitty cause I'm allow myself to indulge the negative. I could view the lame things that I've been doing or experiencing as meaning I somehow suck now or lost my progress or whatever. That's not reality.

I need to view things properly. I had some cool experiences that I thought wouldn't happen to me for a long time. It's the stuff that happens to real PUA's but I'm on the verge of being one. Hell, why qualify it? I'm finally a PUA, but I just need a little more progress to see even more amazing results. I haven't gotten any new lays but things could be worse. I guess I forgot how it felt to not get laid for months. At least now I have a cool FB that I can hook up with whenever. I could have even probably banged my Polish friend. It's weird that when I've been horny, I've tried to escalate on her and she refused, but then when she was touching me, I didn't want it anymore.

Tall Blonde:
What the fuck was up with me caring about that? Yeah it sucks, but deep down, I knew she wasn't into me. 2j was right. I shouldn't think of it as the guy stealing her from me. If I had pushed things sooner, the set would have ended then but I'm the one that stalled. Furthermore, it's not like guys stealing my girl is symptomatic of a larger problem. Yeah that shit used to happen, but most of the time, it's a non issue. I've gotten rid of AMOG's and stolen girls or taken girls back so many times this summer. You can't win them all. The reality, though, is that if a girl is into me, I can handle competing guys competently now.

It bothers me that I wasn't cool enough for her to like me, but oh well. I have been off and even if I were cooler, it doesn't mean she would have wanted me. Some girls just won't want me no matter what. It's not like I don't get girls that I'm really attracted to me into me. Less than two weeks ago, there was this tall redhead that was instantly into me when I opened her with dance floor game. I have to remind myself of how I never would have been able to do dance floor game till recent history.

I have a choice. I can keep being negative and get more shit results to reinforce that idea. The other choice is to be positive and I'll get good experiences to reinforce that idea. Sometimes, the choice is just a mind trick. Here, the reality is that I usually get good results and I just have to forget about the last week.

As Jeffy would advise, "I just have to remember how awesome I am."

Triggered by a guy stealing my girl

2011-08-23T01:25:00.000-07:00

I was in an awesome mood Monday night. I finally was able to run the entire length of this forest preserve trail near me. I knew when I got my long run up to 6 miles last week that I could run the 7.7 mile trail this week. I set out with a positive attitude and was gonna try to focus on pulling.

I was the first one to our Monday spot out of the two wings who were meeting me. I opened this 2-set immediately. They were average but the one chick was cool and actually played World of Warcraft. Unfortunately, she had a boyfriend. I was interested in the friend but she was quiet. The set went to get a drink and I went to find JW. We worked a 2-set of blondes that didn't go anywhere.

The set of the night was this 2-set from a former republic of what was once known collectively as Yugoslavia. I really liked this tall blonde as we had a cool conversation about travel and life. JW occupied the cute brunette friend and was having fun with her on the dance floor. We talked for like twenty minutes and eventually ended up on the dance floor. I tried getting close to her to dance and she kept pushing me away and telling me she wanted to dance alone. I kept trying and she actually danced with me more as time progressed. These two guys next to me started talking to her and then one guy grabbed her to dance. She gave him some resistance too but he wasn't fazed and pulled her in.

I'll give myself credit for not giving up. I tried my best to steal her back from him by grinding on the dude and grabbing her and trying to spin her. The guy did a good job of rotating her away when I tried to get up on her. The reality was that she wasn't into me so I couldn't get her back.

2j was right that the set was just on friendly terms:
2j said that he could tell the set wasn't going anywhere. I guess I knew that all along but I thought maybe I could make something happen anyway. I tried to move her several times when we were talking but she wouldn't comply. I tried to hug her one time and she was reluctant. I had said we should hang out again and she agreed. I tried to number close and she said, "I usually take guy's numbers." I didn't even try to persist cause I knew if she was being hesitant, it was probably gonna flake anyway. Finally, I mentioned how she reacted on the dance floor.

I think I could have tried being more alpha on the dance floor like the guy did. Still, 2j said that if I tried to escalate, then I did all I could. Maybe a mistake was I should have tried to escalate more when we were talking earlier.

Triggered into a shit state:
I shouldn't let this stuff bother me but I guess I'm just still riding that losing streak mentality. I recognize it and try to avoid it, but having a guy steal a girl from me just triggers the bad emotions of the past. I told JW that I felt like I was no longer the guy I had transformed to; instead I felt like I had gone back in time to where no girls liked me and I always lost girls to other guys.

I'm gonna try to push through but it's been a rough few days. I went from having kiss closes regularly and fingering a girl at the club to not having any kiss closes in awhile and just getting bad interactions that trigger bad emotions. I got busted out with some girl that wasn't even that hot that works at McDonald's and doesn't speak English really on Sunday. I got dropped into the friend zone with the Irish girls and I must have weirded them out as they haven't responded to any of my texts since.

Still pushed on:
JW is a solid wing because I was being a little negative when we venue changed. I caught myself doing it and told him I apologized for being negative. I promised to do my best when we went in a venue. He stayed positive throughout. I hate being negative and it's rare that I'm like this. I've hung out with guys that bitch and moan and it ends up pulling everyone down so I sure as hell don't want to be like that.

Some positive reactions at the end of the night:
Wrigley was pretty dead but we found one place with a decent number of people. I seem to have taken one good thing out of the bust out: I was pushing the sets a lot harder. I recognized the girls that were out were drunk since it was almost closing time and it was obvious most had been drinking since the Cubs game at 7pm. I also didn't want to waste my time like I had with that tall blonde. You escalate fast so you don't get into the friend zone and waste time. With the blonde, I had my arm around her and stuff but I never really pushed to holding her hands and pulling her in and trying to escalate to a kiss. Maybe it would have worked had I done that and if it hadn't, I would have been busted out sooner instead of sputtering along and then having to lose the set with the trigger of a guy stealing her from me.

I went up to several girls and did strong eye contact and really projected sexual state. Two or possibly three of the girls were into it. One became uncomfortable even though she was into it. I think it was because she wasn't that attractive and it was too much for her. Two girls reacted positively but they were with guys.

JW has the right attitude. We agreed that we at least made a good effort. I have to be happy that despite being thrown into a shit state with the trigger, at least I kept trying. Many guys would have just went home.

It's not supposed to be easy:
I may take a break and focus on other more important things. What I mean by that is I'll only go out 3-4 times a week instead of 5-6 times. While things have been shitty, perhaps that means a breakthrough is near. Besides, I know how it is to really be shitty at this. I can look up my old posts to remind myself. I had some amazing experiences just about 10-12 days ago. I know I've changed for the better. I just have to keep being positive and I have to keep going out and trying. If I get triggered again, I can't be too hard on myself. If it happens, I just have to force myself to keep going and trust that my state will improve and I'll find that inner confidence.

I'm actually gonna watch Tyler's segment of Transformations, or parts of it. I need to remind myself how these painful moments are opportunities to force myself to grow and improve. I remember how I watched that after that horrible experience at Sangria and how it drove me to get better.

In a self created slump but lessons still learned

2011-08-22T02:30:00.000-07:00

That I even titled a blog post like this displays what is currently wrong with my game. I feel like I'm in a cold streak in poker. A better analogy that most people would understand is that I'm like a sports team on a long losing streak. That this could even happen to a professional sports team means that I shouldn't be too hard on myself for it happening to me. I've been a victim of some circumstances beyond my control: like a tale, pale brunette was really attracted to me on Saturday but she was engaged and surrounded by friends who weren't gonna give her any chance of cheating. The Irish girl was with a guy friend when I met her which made me reluctant to really escalate, and so on.

That's all fine, but I'm suffering from a lack of confidence that the poor results have created in me. I've read this is what happens to a pro team that goes on an extended losing streak. The talent is still there and they might even be way better than a team they are facing, yet they still find a way to lose with their defeatist attitude.

I find that I keep finding dumb ways to screw myself and I've become too results oriented and I'm focusing on the negative things that happen instead of remember the positive.

Lessons from tonight:
1) I got stop going for the ugly girls cause I don't feel worthy enough to get the hotter girl. I did it for ego protection reasons and because I sometimes don't feel high enough entitlement. I also justify it by saying my wing is gonna do a better job because I'm giving him the attractive girl. I was mainly out of that but somehow this bullshit resurfaced this past week. Luckily for 2j, he ended up having a wild night with this girl that way making guys buy her and him shots and then making out with 2j in front of the chumps. It's also no guarantee that she would have been attracted to me had I focused on her.

The results don't matter. I have the play the game right. I should go for the more attractive girl because it means living up to my own standards. I should believe in my value and feel entitled to any girl no matter how hot. By selling myself short and trying for the uglier girl, I'm making myself feel shitty by not living up to my standards. I'm not playing to win; I'm playing to try not to lose. Beyond that, I'm making it harder to be successful by not really going for a girl I really want. The right things happen when I'm actually into a girl instead of going through the motions.

2) I should never hesitate. I went out with Vinny and one of my female Polish friends to Wrigley. I went on the dance floor at Sluggers and there were two cute black girls. I verbally opened one and she gave me a positive response. Rather than pulling her in or dancing with her confidently, I hesitated. Some guy was emboldened by my approach and he went between us and started dancing with her. I gave him that opportunity. As this happened, I thought about dancing with the taller friend (who actually was hotter; again I was doing the same bullshit as in point 1), and then another dude got up on her before I acted.

What is this bullshit? I know I'm better than this. Usually, I'm point and shoot with approaching. I guess the know the answer: it's this slump mentality I talked about in the intro.

3)Why do I keep sabotaging myself by creating bad sarging situations? I could have avoided the cock farm last Thursday, yet I let it happen and was in a situation that made it hard to run my proper game. The same thing happened Friday. I could have told my AFC friends which girl was my target yet I didn't and felt like I had to compete with them. Tonight, I brought out my Polish friend even though I figured it wouldn't work. She kept bothering me and texting me when I was in set. The funny thing is I could have banged her and have wanted to at times but I was turned off today.

I guess 2j's friend (I'm gonna call him Bobby) called it. Bobby is the guy who's friend was the supposed pickup instructor. Bobby is actually cool now. He was out with us twice since that incident. I haven't really talked to him much until today. He read that my Polish friend wanted me even before she made it obvious that me sarging and her being drunk really made her try to escalate on me.

4) At least I'm not a total chump... 2j called me when I was eating with the Polish girl. He said that he hung out with her the whole night. She was like this friend I knew from college in that she kept asking guys to buy her drinks. She was even more ruthless: she made the guys buy her and 2j drinks. She even had some guys let them both into this VIP section. 2j said at one point she got a guy to buy her drinks and then she made out with 2j in front of the dude. LOL.

Right before I really busted out with the friend, she tried to get me to buy a drink. She said, "My friend wants a drink." She was implying that I should get one. I just gave her a blank stare. The funny thing is the friend said, "No" cause she didn't want her to make me buy a drink.

Action plan:
I know my problem. I'm just gonna try to go and have fun and try to focus on the positive. I'm gonna read some of my blog entries to remind me of the cool stuff that happens to me and how I should be happy that I've come this far. I know that I'm being too hard on myself. Before I got on this streak the past week, I realized that really cool things were beginning to happen to me that I only dreamed would start happening to me. I probably began the streak by focusing on how I screwed them up instead of just being happy that success was starting to come to me. Even on a shitty night like tonight, or Friday, I have multiple girls a night giving me the doggy dinner bowl look.

Kiss close sticking point rears it's ugly head

2011-08-21T04:58:00.000-07:00

I went out with excitement and confidence that I could improve and apply what I realized after Friday night. I had a fun night and did a lot of dance floor opening with JW. I opened some sets with verbal game with 2j as well.

Stay in set:
I recognized a stupid sticking point that I have lately. I was in several decent sets. A song came on that I liked and I turned into an ADD girl. Even though the girls didn't seem ready to dance, I tried to pull them on the dance floor or I just started trying to dance with them there. That actually worked with one set as she started dancing with me. The problem is that some sets don't want to dance. Even though I'm doing okay verbally, rather than trying to keep talking, a few times I wandered off. I remember another instance where I busted myself out trying to force her to dance even though I knew I should just keep talking.

I realized that a different version of me from the past might have done better with these sets. The crazy dance floor guy part of me is ruining sets at times. I think I use that fact that they won't dance sometimes as an excuse to eject a decent set.

Still, I like that I was being more dominant with trying to get them to dance. That one set I mentioned where I got the girl to start dancing stands out. I just need to not leave even if I like a song and the girl won't dance. I also need to just work verbals when the dancing isn't clicking with her.

Fast kiss closes:
That kiss close sticking point showed up again. I was grinding with some chubby black girl that I wanted to hook up with. I knew the move was to try to set up a kiss close. I never went for it. She ended up getting tired and sitting with her friend. I kept trying to move her to the cool air vent but she wouldn't leave her friend. The move, though, was to try to kiss close her on the dance floor. I can't believe I didn't even try to go for it. It's been so long since I had a quick kiss close (seems long since I've been going out so much) so my game has regressed.

There were two streets sets that seem really on at the end of the night. I knew I should try to kiss the girls and most of times I would have gone for it. Tonight, I felt reluctant to go for the kiss close and just stalled. I have to remember that I'm trying fast escalation on the street so I should be going for the quick kiss close. Besides, when I'm in street game mode, it's late and the girls are drunk. When I sense they are high buying temperature, I really need to go for it.

Some sets were really hooked:
I should take that fact as a positive. Even 2j said early on that we were hooking a bunch more sets than usual. The tatoo girl that I wrote about in the previous AMOG post was really into me. It's too bad that the guy barged in at that moment, but I should have been making out with my target by that point. The chubby black girl was a no brainer kiss close attempt. I almost can't believe my game has regressed to this point again. I figure now that I'm aware of it, I'll fix it when I'm out next time.

I had a tall, pale brunette into me but she was part of a bachelorette party. She wasn't the one getting married but her friends cock blocked me and said that the pale girl was engaged as well. I believe it as when I was dancing on her and getting up on her, she said, "I'm gonna get in trouble with you."

It actually surprises me how many sets were hooked tonight. I just needed to pull the trigger more I guess or make fewer dumb mistakes like walking away cause of dancing like I wrote about above.

Tense AMOG situation but guy ends up buying shots

2011-08-21T04:43:00.000-07:00

I feel dumb that my highlight of the night is another AMOG confrontation. I must seek this shit out on some level. I'll admit that there are certain circumstances when I could just walk away but decide to call guys out for being dicks. Early in the night, I started dancing by these two girls, and these guys came in and blocked me out in a dick way and ignored me when I tried to say hi to them. I stood there, looked at them and said, "What is this?" as I mocked them. The dudes turned friendly and shook my hand.

At the beginning of the night, I was talking to some Latina chick. She actually told me she was there with some guy. I didn't believe it and didn't care. I actually started to turn the subject sexual. It's funny how I always am able to do that when the boyfriend theme comes in. She was actually digging it and basically admitted the guy was lame in bed. What I say is a variation of something I heard on "Flawless Natural." I said something like, "I bet he's the type of guy that likes to lay you down and just make love to you. I like that too but ideally, I think I woman needs man who knows how to bring out that naughty side. Like you wanna be dominated and spanked." She agreed with that. I was trying to number close her but she wouldn't give it to me. Some buff Latino guy showed up and he wouldn't even say anything. He just kept giving me hard looks when I tried to talk to him. I laughed about what a prick he was.

Free Shots:
We went to work street game and had to go inside a bar cause it started raining. We worked some sets in there to no avail and this cute brunette with a tatoo walked in. She was high buying temperature. She said she just got off work at a video game bar place nearby. I was holding her hand and kino escalation quickly as I could sense her buying temperature. I probably should have tried to kiss her sooner. I realized that I'm back to being slow to kiss close again. The set was on. JW had been keeping the friend occupied.

Suddenly this buffed black dude a few inches taller than me walks into the bar. He gets right up on the other girl and physically blocks out JW. I forgot what he said exactly but he kept telling me to go away. I just stood there. I said to my girl, "What's with your creepy friend?" As I was saying this, the guy physically got between my girl and I. I said something like, "What's up man? I'm PokerPUA." He ignored me. He had me physically blocked out of the set so I just walked away at this point and started telling JW what a cock the guy was.

Tense moment where I actually got scared for a second:
I looked back over at the set and made eye contact with the dude. He started walking towards me. He actually was physically intimidating but I'm always confident in my ability to handle this. Plus, I know that I just have to stand confident and have strong eye contact. I actually thought for a second that he might try to start shit so I had that ready but I just stood there. For a brief second, my mind thought, "Wow this guy might start shit. Maybe I shouldn't have looked over there."

I don't remember the exact conversation but I'm sure I said my usual thing about why he's acting so rude when we're all just trying to have fun. I actually felt myself getting nervous but my body language didn't show it. I remember his first words was he wasn't gonna shake my hand.

Free shots:
The guy ended up being cool. He said he understood that we're just trying to have fun. He said the one girl (not the one I was talking to) lost her keys. The shot girl came by and he started saying we should get shots. I didn't want to drink. JW took a shot. The guy pestered me to get a shot but I didn't really want one. JW tried to pay but the guy paid. We both shook his hand. As he was walking away, I went back up and said "Hey man, I hope you evening gets better. Have fun."

I lead the guys & Girls want to be lead

2011-08-20T06:08:00.000-07:00

I was rolling around in bed when something just hit me. I forced myself to get up so I could write this entry. I didn't want to fall asleep and lose this thought.

I was wallowing in self pity. I hate to admit this shit, but I was sending Seagull some whiny texts cause he happened to be up. I realized that I felt so shitty after last night because so many things happened that just triggered some internal issues that I have.

Anyway, what hit me was what I wrote as the title of this post.

I was literally asking myself, "How do I lead these girls?" Rather than think back on the sets I mentioned in the other posts, I thought about how I lead guys. I don't even really want to be leading, but I do it cause it gets things done. I want to go out where there are both good drink/cover deals. I want to move to a better venue when we run out of sets. I want to move around when we are standing around and in danger of choding around. I push my wings to open when I feel like I'm taking on too much of the work load. Last night, I had to lead around the cock farm that 2j and I somehow got stuck in.

Obviously, I know how to lead, I realized. These guys that I sometimes have to lead are cool, outgoing guys that know how to be dominant with both guys and girls. I admit I don't know everything and when I make a bad suggestion or decision, they'll speak up.

If I can lead this group of guys when I need to, then HOW THE FUCK can I be afraid to lead girls around?

I can think of two reasons why I don't lead girls more. First, it's the old reason of being afraid to lose the girl. Sometimes you lose the girl trying to move her to the bar or dance floor or trying to pull her to your place. The standard advice is the standard sports adage: You need to play to win and not play to not lose. The same reason I was afraid to kino escalate is the same reason I'm afraid to really lead. Fortunately, I do lead a little but I'll get way better results when I make the change of really being confident in leading the girls.

The second reason I don't lead has a psychological basis that I don't really want to get into right now. That is why I have resistance to leading despite that I know it to be true that girls what to lead.

Logically, I know the answer isn't that I should be passive and "too nice." I know damn well that acting like that is AFC behavior.

I need to accept that girls want to be lead. Beyond that, they are actually turned on by being lead. It's masculine versus feminine polarity. Sure, a woman can lead, but when the woman has to lead, she gets turned off and usually you get busted out. This has been mentioned in several comments to my FR's on the forums. I'll sometimes leave this void and then the woman tries to lead: for example, the guys on the forum said several sets brought up hotel rooms because I wasn't leading. I literally had girls ready to fuck me and rather than being dominant and saying, "Let's go" and leading them to my car or my place, I just stood there talking so they tried to lead for me.

I know that women are turned on by being lead. I know how to lead as I have to lead the guys I go out with sometimes and leading those guys is way more of a challenge than leading girls. I know I'm hesitant to lead cause of some fucked up thing that makes me think I shouldn't lead women. I know the truth is the complete opposite.

By realizing all this, I can't see myself choding around with girls and not leading anymore. Besides, the pain I just went through is such a strong motivating force. I'm gonna get better results because I'm gonna lead the girls like they want to be lead and it's gonna turn them on.

Oh, and yes, I can get busted out doing this. I get busted out all the time anyway. That's the way this game works. At least this way, I'm gonna get busted out giving my best effort. What I have been doing the past few weeks hasn't been my true best effort. I can't fault myself too much as I couldn't really see it at the time. Now, pain has brought clarity. I've had my greatest breakthroughs after moments of pain and self pity so I'm confident that I'm about to break out of this plateau and really go on a tear.

Learn from the pain

2011-08-20T05:02:00.000-07:00

Honestly, I keep thinking about last night and I have to admit I feel pain. I know it's because of several different triggers. Also, some of the failures of last night we dude to circumstances outside my control. If things had played out just slightly differently, I could have been banging some girl or at the very least, things could have turned out better than they did.

The proper thing to do is to use this pain to learn.

Yes, I can blame the circumstances, but that's like cursing about bad luck in poker. You have to focus on what you can control.

It's clear in my mind now, even more than the "I need to be more assertive and dominant" post, that this is a MASSIVE sticking point. I felt when I was writing that post (and this was just an hour ago) that 2j and his girl had seen me working a set that wasn't a typical example of my current game. The truth is, yes, I can do better and have done better, but my lack of dominance is a way larger problem that I was able to see then.

It became clear after I wrote the FR from last night. I could have lead the two Irish girls to a place where I could have run some dance floor game after my friends left. All the problems with the missed pull could have been solved by just being a little more aggressive and dominant.

Heck, all the ways I went wrong in the past few weeks can be solved with just a little more dominance. At the very least, I should have banged those two black girls. I should already have number closed that redhead.

I have to get over the self pity. I know it just makes things worse. What I said in the other post is still valid here. I shouldn't be too upset. I should reflect on the positive. Moreover, yes this is a big change that I need to make, but it's not like I'm clueless how to act dominant. As I wrote in the other post, I've shown high level dominance in the past. I just need to learn to access that part of me and I need to understand that I need to do this.

I have to think about how I felt that one day I lost the Indiana girls at Sangria to competing dudes. That forced me to get better at AMOGing and stealing guys from girls. With that same energy I built off that pain, I have to force myself to practice being dominant now.

I complain that I don't get enough pulling practice cause it's hard to get to that stage often enough to practice. I can still make baby steps. I need to just practice moving sets around the bar. It's good game to do that, and to work on being dominant I need to do that, so that's a good game plan.

The other thing I need to focus on is turning the talk sexual. I've been getting better at that. I think about kissing that girl with the boyfriend on Tuesday. She ended up kissing me because I was able to bring sex talk in. I felt more comfortable after she gave me the boyfriend objection. It was similar to this set two Thursdays ago. Logically, if I'm doing well acting that certain way when I get a legitimate boyfriend objection, I need to find a way to act that same way in all my sets.

From make out to friend zone & An After party pull but friend didn't like me

2011-08-20T04:46:00.000-07:00

Before I dig into the negative moments of in the night, I should take a moment to bask in the positive. Far too often, I just think about my sticking points and how I screwed up. It's crazy how much I'll beat myself up over good nights. Take last week. I should be happy that I fingered this black girl with an awesome body yet all I could think about was how I didn't try to pull her to the VIP bathroom. I keep thinking about how I was so close to fucking her and how I screwed it up.

"Those three girls came out to meet you?" -Warcraft

That's what my buddy Warcraft said at one point in the night. My buddies had this free party at this bar that they won: free drinks and food for 2 hours. They had open spots so I invited a bunch of girls to come out. This Asian girl that I number closed on the street on Division came out late, and I met up with the two Irish girls I met two Tuesdays ago. It is cool that I was able to bring girls out for this: that circle of friends knew me through the years when I had no girls so it must have been weird to see this. Warcraft knows I'm sarging a ton, but it was another thing to actually see girls out with me.

Make out and then friend zone:
I got all fucked up cause of the free drinks. I wish I had remembered the night better as it seems odd to me when I recalled what happened with my Irish girl. During the free bar thing, I was being a party guy with the drinks. I spent some time talking to my target, but I also talked to some of my friends and to the Asian girl. When we had less than five minutes left for free drinks, I dragged my target to the bar and we chugged two drinks quickly. I think I went to the bathroom after that. I just remember that most of our group had left. I sat down next to my target and we made out briefly.

Shortly after that and several times throughout the rest of the night, all she cold tell me is how she just wants to be friends. I've been having a hard time squaring the two things together.

I think clearly the attraction was there. 2j saw it the night I met her and she did make out with me.

It's probably I was too friendly and not escalating sooner. Also, when we met up prior to the bar outing, I guess I should have made things more man-to-woman. We met up two stops from where we had to go and then took the train and walked to the bar. The friend was also there so I didn't feel as comfortable as I would have been had it just been my target and I. It was bad timing for me too. 2j had this Day2 that went awesome. Had he not had the Day2, I would have had help with the friend. I think there's a decent chance he could have progressed with the friend too.

Weird to get the friend zone:
It's so fucking weird for me to get this. I haven't had that in so long. I think that's why I felt so shitty afterward. It's like I felt I was back in AFC land somehow. Girls either reject me or hook up with me in some way lately. I don't necessarily get laid, but I at least make out with girls or they don't come out or the set just ends up going nowhere.

I'm still trying to figure out where I could have done better to avoid this situation. Should I have texted better? Clearly, the texting was fine: they did come out. As I said above, maybe I needed to kino more on the way to the bar. Maybe I should have been escalating more during the bar but I was trying to eat, talk to my friends, talk to the Asian girl, talk to my target, and get fucked up.

McDonalds dudes:
My buddy didn't get into our usual Friday spot. I think that fucked things up. Things would have gone better if we got in. My buddy had to leave anyway and we would have been in a club instead of out in the streets. I could have taken my girl to the dance floor and my dance floor game might have been enough to break through the BS friend zone. Instead, we somehow ended up at the Rock N' Roll McDonalds at 2am cause I mentioned going to a club near there and the other Irish girl wanted to get food.

They were drunk so they started chatting up two random dudes who ended up sitting with us. I'll give myself credit in that I set up the seating arrangement well. The one girl sat down in this booth. My target followed and then I sat next to her. The dudes sat on the other side. They kept talking and I was drunk and didn't say much, but I kept putting my arm around my target. Later, I dragged her away to go look at the time exhibit they have upstairs. The dudes were trying to get them to go for a drink but they ended up leaving when we came back.

Lead more:
I can see where the last post applied here. I mentioned going to English or another bar. They didn't really go for it but they jumped on McDonald's. If I wanted to go to the bar, I needed to say, "Let's go check out English" and lead them there. This is why I don't fucking pull! I throw ideas out and when the girls don't jump on them enthusiastically, I just drop the idea. That's what happened her and that's what happens when girls are ready to go home with me and I throw something out and then don't lead firmly like I'm supposed to do.

Scandanavian girls:
I went upstairs to take a piss at the girl's place. It was a good move to get inside there. If I hang out with them again, at least it won't be weird to be up in their place. I left after drinking a water I left. I was near Division so I stopped by one of the bars. I ended up opening this cute pale skin girl. I kino escalated a bit by putting my arm around her and touching her hand but I should have been able to set up a make out. I blame it on being in a chump state after getting rejected with my Irish girl. Still, as I've written in this post and the prior one: I need to work on making conversations man-to-woman every time.

She was with this blonde friend. The blonde liked this black dude and I saw them making out on the dance floor. The blonde didn't like me. She tried to bust me out early on even after I was introduced to her and tried talking to her. I just ignored her BS and plowed on and she let me hang out with the friend while she danced and kissed the black dude.

Closing time came and 2j text me that he was outside. I didn't realize he was still with his Day2. It was another situation where if he had been alone, we would have had this 2-set. I told my girl we were gonna have an after party with my buddy. I even sold up 2j to the blonde. The black dudes, at this point, had accepted they weren't gonna pull and had gone outside.

I got outside and saw that 2j was with his Day2. That was disappointing as now I had no one for the blonde. It might have worked trying to pull with the other dude, but that dude had a wing with him. The wing sucked in that he wasn't able to win over my girl and he was just standing there. Still, the double pull wasn't gonna work because the other dude kept trying to pull with his buddy.

So much easier with a girl:
2j's girl was totally cool and I actually got to observe some dynamics that I'm not used to seeing. Having a girl helping sell the after party is huge. My girl really wanted to go especially when she saw there was gonna be another girl there. She didn't want to leave the blonde. The blonde was kissing the black dude. I started talking to 2j and his girl and then my girl started to gravitate towards the black dudes. I heard the dudes talking about taking the girls to the Cubs game. 2j's girl ended up going up and talking to both girls.

She confirmed later that my girl liked me but she said the blonde didn't like me. That was clear.

Blonde hated me:
Perhaps that's a harsh heading. The blonde didn't like me. From the start, I said she was trying to bust me out. The black dudes ended up leaving and I thought I had the after party pull. I was leading my girl to follow 2j but then the blonde started pulling my girl away. Some random Latino dude started talking to them. Rather than go with us as my girl wanted to do, she started listening to that guy's BS about an after party. This is when I said to my girl, "Wow, she'd rather consider going to an after party with some random dude rather than with 2j, his girl, and I. WTF?"

Some thoughts on leading:
I recall the two black dudes talking to the set. The one guy was being firm about number closing my target. She was starting to comply. Girls do that. I know that from my own experience, but again, I often am not dominant enough. Funny thing was that I had my moment here. I said in her ear, "Tell him that you have a Norwegian number." She was digging in her purse to get her phone but when I said this, she stopped and told him that line.

When the blonde started listening to the Latino dude, I needed to be firm. I wasn't as comfortable being firm with her as I knew she didn't like me. Still, I know drunk girls. When the dude starting yapping, I should have just grabbed both their hands and lead them towards 2j.

My final mistake was just letting my girl go with the blonde.

"Do what must be done"

I think of the Emperor saying that in Star Wars III. I lost the set at the end because I didn't push. I didn't give it my best effort. Ozzie talks about having tug of wars with friends sometimes. 2j and his girl told me that even if the blonde didn't want to go, I could have tried to pull the friend solo. Again, I listened to her objections instead of leading.

My target said, "I can't leave my friend even though she would leave me."

As I type that, I realize she was giving me permission to lead her. Even if she had just said, "I can't leave my friend," 2j had a good point that I could have said, "You're an adult aren't you?" I think back on Jeffy's advice on my failed pull of that black girl several weeks ago. He said I did too much convincing. I needed to just tug on my targets arm more and say "Let's go."

The fact that she said "even though she would leave me" means that she was more likely to leave. Clearly, her friend had left her before to hook up with guys. My target even said that guys always like her friend. The strange thing is that I was WAY more attracted to my target than the blonde.

How the hell did I just let the set end by some random dude pulling the blonde away?

I ended up seeing my target walk back. I had been by 2j and his girl talking for about 5 minutes when I saw my girl trying to get a cab. I approached her but her buying temperature had dropped as I expected. Instead of plowing, I just walked away. That was dumb too. I knew she wasn't going to be all high buying temperature so I should have made a better effort than that. I needed to make her laugh and pump her state and then try to pull.

I need to be more assertive & dominant

2011-08-20T03:55:00.000-07:00

I'll write my field report after this. I had a cool night in many ways, but ultimately it lead to frustration. I also received some great feedback from 2j, and this girl he was with. It was a cool situation where I had his girl trying to help me pull this girl for an after party, and then I also got to see a woman's perspective of my game. It also was a legitimate female perspective, not the culturally programed bullshit like I got from my Polish female friend. I mean that it was actual dead-on advice.

The advice isn't anything I already didn't know. It's what's been holding me back from getting several lays over the past month that I should have had. It's also something 2j has been telling me several times this week. Often, I come across as friendly. That's great as it gets me into a ton of sets, but sometimes I stay too much in the friend zone and don't take the conversation man to woman.

I have to admit that I felt like shit the whole train ride to my car as I contemplated my short comings and I thought about the two failures tonight. Criticism is always hard, but ponder my situation made me realize the good in my situation.

I wondered about what 2j said. He was right, especially concerning the late set on Division, but I look at myself and I know that I can be dominant and assertive as well. It finally struck me, as I was about this write this, that I need not be sad.

I need to take the advice to heart and present that assertive and dominant side of my personality that's already there. For years, I had to work on that, but it's definitely there. I think about all the amazing stuff I've done: I've blown out dudes, including that "instructor" guy from last week; Seagull and I pulled that set from dudes that already had them hooked; and I almost had a bathroom pull just a week ago.

I thought about the set that 2j and his girl witnessed. While there was some good there, I hadn't even made out with the girl. I had enough time to do it; but I was doing too much friendly conversation. It wasn't horrible in that I did kino escalate and put my arm around here, but I surely wasn't running my best game.

Again, the lesson is that I have to tone down that friendly side a bit and bring out that dominant side and my results should take off. Too many times in the past week I've been doing that bullshit friend to friend conversation when I should be making it man-to-woman.

Annoying Cockfarm and Tall girl entitlement practice

2011-08-19T03:03:00.000-07:00

It's funny that I went from going out alone to knowing too many guys that want to go out. I let all these dudes distract me too much. 2j had a point that we should be hitting sets hard despite having all these dudes. I decided that I gotta try hitting other places when we have a night when too many people are hitting up the same place. At least with college friends, they know to give me some space. Some of these guys that we went out with Thursday are naturals that have annoying habits: like coming in an taking over a set we're in. 2j and I have decided to just ignore these guys like any other interrupts.

My favorite redhead was there again. I had a few moments to talk to her and I had 2j ask her name as I felt stupid not knowing her name. The cock farm was interferring with that. I didn't want to go in when Vinny and his friend were around. I knew they were probably too chicken to approach her themselves, but if they saw me coming in, they'd all of sudden start talking to her. I'd have to AMOG them and I didn't want to deal with it. Still, I should have number closed her, especially when we had a decent conversation going. On a plus side, I found out we have more in common and she complimented me on my hair cut.

Hot girls again:
Our new after hours spot on Thursday is awesome. Once again, it had the highest concentration of hot girls out of all the places we go to regularly. I told 2j that it's the only place where I keep telling him to check out this girl and that girl. Unfortunately, 2j let's himself get intimidated by the hotter sets. I had to bug him to go open. I'm more than willing to open but I feel he should open some 2-sets when I'm getting busted out several times in a row. He finally opened this one set that he ended up number closing.

It's interesting how much more difficult this place is that many of the other places we hit. I'm approaching the same way and early on, I kept getting instantly busted out. I realized that maybe I wasn't plowing enough. A girl would give me a bad reaction and I'd just walk away. In some ways, it's humorous because when I'm sober approaching like I was today, I would never get busted out this many times at our normal spots.

Tall girls:
I'm feeling more and more entitled to tall girls. At the end, I spent a few minutes with two really tall girls: like the tallest girls in the bar. I ultimately got busted out, but it's funny how I busted out instantly or quickly with so many sets at the after hours place, yet with the girls I really want (the tall hotties), I managed to do better.

One day, I will have success with these tall beauties and I know it'll kick my feelings of entitlement to the stratosphere.

Kissed a girl who had a boyfriend & Druknen Sarging

2011-08-17T03:11:00.000-07:00

Tuesday night I was all fucked up for the early part of the night. I drank a whole pitcher one an empty stomach and was so drunk I spilled my remaining beer on the table and some spilled on me. I learned that my verbal game can be really bad when I'm drunk. I got busted out several times in a row before I realized that what I need to be doing is dance floor game when I'm drunk. After all, I had that near bathroom pull when I was drunk on Friday. The sets were responding better on the dance floor when I was drunk. As I sobered up, I was able to run sets normally with my verbal game.

I have a boyfriend:
Sometimes, that's line is a shit test. Other times, especially when you are new, it's a polite way that some girls try to use to get rid of you. Then, there are times when the girl likes you but really does have a boyfriend. That happened in this 3-set. This girl and I were getting along really well and I was kino escalating. 2j was working the blonde friend but Vinny was all drunk and the 3rd girl said he was creeping her out.

The 3rd girl ended up wanting to leave. I tried to number close my girl and she said she had a boyfriend. She had mentioned this earlier but I just blew it off. I believed her because I could tell she liked me but that was holding her back. The two friends were already walking towards the entrance when I had my target give me a hug. After the hug, we were still in a semi-embrace and our faces were right next to each other. I leaned in to kiss her and got her cheek. She hadn't really moved her face, but her face was turned and she didn't turn to kiss me.

She didn't really look like she was resisting it so I decided to try again. I looked at her and said, "No one's looking. Who's gonna know?" Then I leaned towards her and we kissed briefly. Then she left. I was thinking I probably could have gotten a make out if I had busted on her for a shitty kiss. I was just happy to kiss her cause I felt there was some chemistry between us. If I had more time to work her, perhaps we could have hooked up but this was good enough considering the circumstances.

My drunken Irish girl:
I was working this 2-set when I saw the Irish girls from last week. My girl was obviously drunk and high buying temperature and she was all up on this guy. I just waved and said hi initially. Then, I decided to go in because I thought that guy was gonna pull. The friend started telling me that my girl was totally trashed and they were leaving soon. I said, "She's gonna hook up with that guy." The friend that said that was her boyfriend (as in the friend's, not my girl's) and he was trying to lead her out of the bar. I then realized it was the friend's boyfriend; last week the girls had said 2j looked like the boyfriend and this guy did look like 2j.

I just wish my girl hadn't been so trashed as if I had time to talk to her, I probably could have escalated and maybe gotten more. I need to try to set up a Day2 with her soon. She has responded to my texts every day but she was busy with a guy friend who was visiting. He left yesterday so she should now have time to meet up.

"You're standing too close."
I told 2j that I get this comment a lot when I'm drunk. It hardly happens when I'm sober. I knew I was miscalibrated, but I finally figured out what the deal was last night. I got it from this girl that was seated at the table. She said that to me several times when I wasn't even close to her. I realized girls tell me that because of the laser eye contact I'm giving. I do it even stronger when I'm drunk. They make that comment because they can feel the sexual tension it creates. Girls that aren't into me for whatever reason feel uncomfortable and tell me I'm standing too close. Sometimes I have been too close, but when I'm not too close, it's solely because of the eye contact.

Brining Value & Girls getting me free martinis

2011-08-15T14:34:00.000-07:00

I talked about beast mode in my last post and how it changed me. I saw it in 2j last night. We were walking to this free drink bar and we spotted these two Latina girls standing by a car. I noticed them and said we should get them to come to the bar. Sometimes, 2j is a little hesitant to approach, especially at the start of the night. Going out every night changes you as you have gained massive momentum. He approached before we could even discuss who was going in. We started talking to the girls. There was a guy in the car and he hopped out. He was actually cool. We mentioned the free drink deal at the bar and eventually left them to go in. 2j tried to pull them immediately with us but they said they'd go in later.

Later, they saw them inside. The text had said free martini and also open bar. We found out it was the usual free vodka drinks for guys, but girls could get martinis. The girls we saw outside and the guy enjoyed free drinks. I commented to 2j, "This is an example right here of the value we bring to people." We had been discussing 2j's notes from The RSD Summit, specifically from Todd. Todd talked about realizing and believing in the value you bring to women. It's something that we often forget, especially when faced with a really beautiful woman. Going into value would be another post, but here was a concrete example right there: that set would not have enjoyed the free drinks and atmosphere had we not talked to them.

You got a free martini?:
When we walked in, I was a bit disappointed that guys couldn't get free martinis. I don't even necessarily like martinis but I do like trying different drinks. I told 2j that I was gonna get myself free drinks. He was surprised when I had a free one within a few minutes of saying that. I joked, "Of course, I was able to get one!" It was simple, I just opened a set and then asked the girls to get me a martini. I was cool and gave them a dollar for the tip.

There was this bitchy Latina that we saw as we were walking into the bar. I saw her inside and she turned out to be cool. When I mentioned the free martinis, she said she would get me one and she even refused the tip money. She tipped for me. I probably should have sarged her more.

All fucked up:
I ended up getting really drunk which was dumb. I had taken the train so I was planning on staying out till the end, but Sunday night turned out to be a bust. 2j was right that it was busy last week because of Lollapalooza. The free martini place was busy but we wore it out of sets by like 1am so we went to Division. That place was a ghost town. There were two sets total in the two bars we tried. Vinny decided to go home early and then 2j said he was ready to go to bed. I was all fucked up so I went to Greektown as I couldn't drive home. That really blew my diet. I probably was 1000-2000 calories over maintenance last night. The important thing is to get back on starting today.

Hot Latina girl:
The highlight of the night was this Latina college girl. She had told me it was her last night in Chicago. I danced with her for a bit and she seemed into me but I eventually lost her. Of course, there was the typical AMOG bullshit early on. Some black dude was talking to the girls sister and he gave me this hard look and basically told me to go away. I just laughed at him and ignored him. That was the end of him. I got about 5 minutes more with the girl but I ended up losing her as she waved me off.

I can't really figure out what I did wrong. Sometimes, as 2j says, you just can win them all. I had tried to escalate on the dance floor and I had tried to move in front. Neither worked. I probably was too drunk to think clearly. I think maybe the move would have been to pull her aside after a dancing and tried to run more verbal on her.

My Friendly vibe attracts the lame AMOG attempts:
2j noted at the end that he thinks maybe it's my friendly vibe that gets these guys to try the lame ass AMOG attempts. I remember commenting how amusing I find it that guys keep trying this hard stare AMOG tactic with me. I thought it was the glasses but this still happens with the contacts. 2j said that I just look and act really friendly so some guys must just assume that they can stare at me and scare me off.

Thinking about it, I like it. The AMOG's underestimate me and they just blow themselves out even more easily because they don't expect me to have a solid frame. Besides that, it amuses me to deal with this shit and I just become even more solid in my frame the more practice I get with it.

Beast mode: Sarging a hot blond on the phone

2011-08-15T14:07:00.000-07:00

I'm gonna post my Sunday Field Report in a sec but I wanted to post about this set from Saturday that I didn't mention in my last post. I was on the street on Division when I saw this tall, hot blonde standing by a light pole. She was on the phone. I want to write about this set because it's a great example of what a beast mode romp does to you. At this time Saturday, I had gone out 10 days in a row.

I could see myself normally not trying to approach this set, mainly cause she was on the phone. Some other guys might not have approached dude to being intimidated by her looks. I seem to have gotten that sticking point out of my system.

I approached her from the front so she could seem me coming and locked eye contact with her. I moved until I was right up on her. I could hear her telling, "Come on and pick me up. I'm right over at X bar. It's only a few minutes away."

I began to just say stuff like, "Get off the phone. Tell that fuck buddy you don't need him anymore."

I said more stuff but I can't even remember it. The cool thing was that she was receptive to my advances initially. I grabbed her hand and she was cool with that, and I put my arm on her hip and pulled her into me. She started telling the guy, "Can you hear this?"

Eventually, she did tell me to go away, so I did. 2j suggested that I could have tried to grab the phone and hang up on the guy. He made a great point that it would have either gotten me laid or completely blown out but it might have been worth trying.

Polish set, AMOGing, shy girl, and wing gets quick makeout but doesn't want girl

2011-08-14T04:36:00.000-07:00

I started off the night feeling really tired. I think I've been cutting my calories too much and doing to much exercise. I still think I might be getting sick. That's what happens after doing all that plus going out 10 days in row. Before I met with 2j, I stopped in some bars along the way to warm up.

At the bar I met 2j and his roommate, I opened these two high buying temperature Swiss girls. They were drunk and thinking back, maybe I should have tried to kiss close them. There were some guy orbiters or whatever with them. The dudes stayed away and only came in at the very end when we were ejecting. I guess the dudes saw us all over the girls. That they noticed and decided to take action really makes me think maybe I should have went for the kiss close.

Polish Set:
We were in this 2-set of Polish girls that I opened for awhile. I always lose track of time when I'm in sets, but it was at least a half hour. 2j girl was really into him. My target seemed to be having fun: she didn't want to leave and she was dancing with me. She kept smiling at me and seem to like me a bit, but there was also some resistance. She'd get close while dancing and then pull away. I had tried to kiss her twice to no avail and I tried to number close her.

I moved her to a cooler spot on the dance floor and then 2j's girl pulled him over by us. I tried to pull her off to the side so I could run more verbal game. 2j's girl saw this and came over and we ended up losing the set. They went to the bathroom and though we stood nearby, we never saw them leave the bathroom.

Shy girl:
I opened this thin, cute blonde just as I was about to leave the bar to meet up with Trojan-. 2j and I were literally about to walk down the stairs when I decided to open this girl. I remember her saying she was shy and that she hadn't gotten a drink yet. It was crowded at the upstairs bar. I give myself credit for actually leading. I told her to come down to the bar downstairs and she could get a drink more easily. She objected saying she couldn't leave her friends. I replied, "You do have a phone don't you? I remember the days when I didn't have one." As I said, this I started to lead her towards the stairs and she agreed.

We got to the bar area downstairs. I told her to go and order. She asked if I wanted anything and I told her to get me a water, and then I gave her a dollar to tip for my water. She returned my dollar as she was gonna pay the tip. She got a phone call at this time: it was her friends looking for her. She said that her friend had already got her a drink and she needed to go upstairs. She asked me to go with but I had already text Trojan- that I was coming outside to meet him as that place wouldn't let him in for some stupid reason. I had number closed her right after to phone call so I just settled for that.

AMOG's:
There was this thread on RSD where a guy complained about night game and how he always encountered the scum of society there (basically). I said that maybe he looks for that as I always have a blast and I meet cool people and have deep conversations. I think maybe I'm too into AMOGing. I won't just tool random guys but this orbiter pulled this cute girl on crutches away and into a cab. After that, I told 2j that I was just gonna AMOG or ignore any guy that came in. I busted out some guy out of this 2-set of two blondes. I was talking to this brunette and two different orbiters gave me shit. I tooled them but ended up losing the girl as she feel out of state from doing this. On top of that, I wasn't tooling some random guy but friends of hers.

I wonder if maybe I'm gonna get in a fight sometime soon. I probably won't but there are times I should just leave but I like to stay to prove a point. The other side of the coin is that by putting myself in certain situations, I just learn to become even more comfortable to put out that vibe where most guys won't mess with me. For example, two different times, the girls wasn't into me and this one tall, built guy, and in the other set, this tall fat dude came in. I tried to be friendly and they were dicks and/or ignored me. Instead of just walking away, I called them out on it. Of course, I did in the right way: I put out the fun vibe and said something like, "Look at you being all serious! What's up with that? I'm just having fun here. What's your name?"

The fat dude even walked towards me. I actually thought for a second he might try something but I didn't flinch. Besides, it was on Division where there are cops everywhere. I think he had been testing me and when I didn't flinch, he all of a sudden turned cool and told me his name and shook my hand.

I'll just close this section by saying I'm gonna work on trying not to enjoy this AMOG confrontations too much. It's good to have the skill but I should only do it when necessary. I'm out to pick up girls and not have AMOG battles.

Wing make out:
I briefly opened this moving set at this one bar. Later, we went outside and opened them again. I went for this cute pale skinned girl. 2j talked to one girl and his roommate talked to another. In just a few minutes, I looked over and 2j was making out with this girl. 2j later told me it was basically a pull as the girl was telling him he could come over but he didn't want to do it. He said I could try; I didn't cause I wasn't sure how I was gonna try to bang her when I had been hitting on the friend. Tyler's old AMOG post does say buying temperature transfers so maybe I should have tried it.

I remember in the set that my girl didn't like me anymore and was bitching about leaving. I told her, "Look, my friend and your friend are having a great time. I'll just back off and we can just talk." I moved several feet off of her and did this for a bit.

Even though 2j didn't want the girl ultimately, I gotta say it's cool to be a part of a set where things go down like that. I told 2j I respect that the girl doesn't meet his standards. I told him that I would have done her and I just want to hook up with girls in general. We agreed that we have to get what we want out of the game. He said he wished I had opened the girl since I would have banged her. I wish I did too but I'm happy I went for the girl I wanted even though I got rejected.

Maybe I should have tried to hook up with the girl he didn't want. His roommate was trying to hook up with the fattie in the group. We encouraged him to stay and maybe I should have stuck around and tried to end up hanging up with the high buying temp girl.

Division:
It was dead for a Saturday for whatever reason. I met this cool Asian/Brazilian girl on the street and number closed her. She said she's engaged and loyal to her man. She seemed cool and maybe I will hang out with her anyway. She even said she can bring this female friend if we go out so I'll try it out.

The other set was this cute girl with glasses. We had a great conversation and she was giving me IOI's. I tried to number close but she had a boyfriend and wouldn't give me her number. Maybe I should have just tried to escalate more and gotten busted out or laid. She was comfortable with the kino escalation I had done so maybe I should have gone for broke. Instead, I just left after it was clear we couldn't have a Day 2. The reason I didn't escalate more at the time was she was surrounded by a group of friends and I didn't think she'd be comfortable with more kino around them.

Fingered this girl at the club & should have had 1st bathroom pull

2011-08-13T14:44:00.000-07:00

Last night was great, though on the train ride home I was kicking myself for not getting laid. I sometime focus on having actual intercourse with girls too much instead of looking at the big picture. It was a night of two firsts, and should have been a giant first as well.

Venue change random girls to our usual spot:
Ever since I discovered my Friday deal, I've been wanting to venue change girls to this club. The deal is great because you don't have to register on some list: you just drop the promoter's name and you get in free and get 4 drink tickets. On the train ride from the art event, I told 2j about how I wanted to do this.

We got off at our stop and as we were walking along the platform to the exit, we passed a 3-set of Korean girls. I'm generally not attracted to Asian girls, but in my eyes, these girls were very attractive. There's also something about Korean girls that I like as the Asian girls that I have found really attractive always seem to be of this ethnicity. 2j and I both started talking to them as we were walking.

This was a small lesson in plowing. The girls didn't respond initially. I remember saying two sentences and 2j saying two of three. Finally, 2j just said, "Okay, fine. Just ignore us." My girl spoke up at that point. It turns out they weren't blowing us out: there was a language barrier. The girls spoke English pretty well, but they did ask us to speak slower so they could understand.

I immediately asked them to come to the club with us. The girls recognized the name so I think they might have been going there anyway. What they didn't know was the promoter hook up: they were excited when we told them they'd get in free and get 4 drinks each. WE hung out with them for a bit and I number closed and e-mail closed the girl I wanted. 2j did the same with his. It sucks that the girls don't have a local number so it's gonna be harder to set up a Day2, but I was happy to finally bring a set to the club.

Free shot from promoter & High value behavior:
I wish the promoter had been early so I could have introduced the three Korean girls. You become high value to promoters if you can bring hot girls. Regardless, when I saw her, I told her that I had brought her 8 people that night: 3 Korean girls, 2j, Raw, Vinny and one of his girls, and I. Also, three of us had went to her spot on Thursday as well.

She wanted to number close me so she could buy me a shot. It's funny in that I ended up behaving like a high value guy would even though I wasn't trying to do it. It's a good reference point for me on how behaving like that feels and looks like. It how I ultimately will act to all girls. It's hard because right now I want sex from hot girls I'm sarging. I feel like when I have 2-3 MLTR's and FB's set up, I'll need the sex less and screen the girls more and end up behaving high value. Of course, that will result in me even getting more girls. I gotta try to be outcome independent even now but it's hard sometimes.

Promoter: Thank you so much. I should take down your number. (Whips out phone.)
Me: I got your number already.
Promoter: I'm gonna get you a shot later. Give me your number.
Me: Here, I'll text you with my name on it.

I met up with her later for the shot. She had text me while I was out with the set below.

It's easy for me to act this way with the promoter because I have no agenda. She's tall and cute and I'd bang her, but I'm just being friendly. She has a lot of guys orbiting her as it's part of getting guys to come to the club you're promoting. You see these guys clinging on her and buying her stuff. I know I'm the customer and that I actually bring her business so I already feel high value. Beyond that, I'm so unreactive to her kino, etc, as I figure most of it is fake anyway.

Crazy black girl who wasn't even 21:
Halfway through the night, I saw this black girl on the dance floor. She had an awesome body. As I've said before, I like thin girls and her legs and ass were perfect for me. She had probably B cups, and that's fine with me. Her face was okay: I wouldn't complain about it but it wasn't her best feature. She was dancing by herself and I just went up to her and started dancing. She was extremely high energy and we were grinding very quickly.

It was obvious she was plastered and she even fell the first time I tried to spin her. She told me that she wasn't even 21. My FB talks about how she gets her underage friends into a bunch of different venues; this past week I've been wondering how many girls I've talked to actually were under 21. Then, tonight I had this set.

Won't kiss, but let me finger her:
It amuses me how that works. I remember TD/Owen saying that sometimes girls won't kiss you but they'll fuck you. This probably could have been the case tonight. I was grinding with this girl for awhile. I tried to isolate her off the dance floor but she was too much into dancing. We were dancing so much that we were both extremely sweaty. I kissed her neck at one point and while fresh sweat isn't bad, I didn't really like it. I went for the kiss but she pulled away. She pulled away later when I tried that.

I utilized this method some ijjjji guy posted on fastseduction a few months ago. It was an illustration of where to touch girls when you're dancing. It also showed where not to as it triggers ASD: that would be putting your hand by her navel and moving downwards, or your hand on top of her ass and moving down. You can usually grab a girls ass with no resistance if you start from holding her hip and move sideways to her ass. I kept playing around with that and then I finally just moved my hand close to her pussy. She didn't resisted so I started rubbing her pussy.

It was dark, but I didn't want to make it too obvious, so I maneuvered her to the wall. I had her facing me and I started to rub my leg into her crotch as I always try to do. She was so enthusiastic about this, and she just started riding my leg. She did this many times. Her pussy must have been dripping wet as my right pant leg really smelled like pussy. It was a pleasant smell but I put the pants in the laundry. I actually get hard thinking about how awesome it would have been for her to ride my cock like she had been riding my leg.

Another move I made was to turn her around and grind her from behind as she was facing the wall. I moved my hands and started working that pussy and it was hidden by the wall and our bodies.

Buying drinks & the bisexual girl:
I'll interrupt this story to go on a slight tangent. With the black girl, I ended up having her isolated to take a break. She asked for water and I didn't want to buy it. Then I thought that I don't have to be that cheap. You don't by random girls drinks, but I have been rubbing this girls pussy so it was okay to buy her a drink. I ended up drinking half of the bottled water anyway.

Earlier in the night, I had seen that fat bisexual girl I ran into in early July on Division. I had bought her two shots cause I was wasted and turned on by her bisexuality and I felt like a chump afterward. I didn't recognized it was her until I opened her and she remembered me. She was still fat but her face was beautiful. She had her hair down, she was made up, and she was dressed nicely. She had looked more butch on Division which kind of turned me off.

We were talking and I was kino escalating. Then, she asked me to buy her a shot. I didn't want to do it and she ended up leaving. I think I busted out more because I just got this disgusted look on my face when she asked me to buy her shots. If I had just said "No" and plowed, she probably wouldn't have left so quickly.

You gotta bathroom pull if you're are gonna spike their buying temp:
I told 2j that I always seem to have pull opportunities when I don't have my car. I realize it's gotta be a psychological thing and I have to fix that. If I had my car, I would have tried to drag the black girl out. My problem was it was like 1:30am when we were getting all crazy on the dance floor. The place closes at 4am on Fridays. I saw she was a with a friend and some guy was grinding up on her the whole time. I couldn't leave as I had no where to go except maybe the alley. My car was parked off the Harlem blue line stop so I'd have to commute an hour on the train to get there. I guess another option is to take a cap to my car but I don't want to waste $30 to do that, but maybe I should be willing to do that if I take the train.

I remember thinking my plan was to try to dance with her until close and then pull her, possibly with her friend and the guy. That ended up being the wrong plan and I suspected it would be when I conceived it. It seemed like 2 hours was too long to keep this set warm. Ultimately, she ended up leaving. First, she asked to dance with another guy. I didn't say anything and she grinded up on this black dude. I followed and sandwiched her between me and the guy and then I spun her off him. Two songs later, she asked, "Do you want to dance with me all night?" I said I did and she said she wanted to dance with other guys but said she would dance with me later.

My mind knew what a possible move was. Seagull and I had formulated this plan several weeks ago. He had been fingering a Polish girl and he tried to pull her to his car but she dropped buying temperature once she was outside. I think he came back in and it was on again but he couldn't get her out the door. I mentioned the VIP bathroom as in that section there's an individual bathroom. He agreed it would be a place to pull a girl.

I needed to finger her and really get her hot and then drag her upstairs, into the VIP section (which is no problem, I've never been stopped going in there), and then into the bathroom. In my head, I figured if someone said something when we were walking in, I'd say she felt sick and I was gonna hold her hair up.

In my head, the plan was set but I didn't want to follow through. It's like I somehow thought the plan of staying till the end was the better one. I think I knew the bathroom pull was better, but again maybe my reality again was being held back by ego protection.

The whole train ride, I kept thinking about how fucking cool and awesome it would have felt to pull her to the bathroom. I could see myself just fingering her like crazy, having her suck my sick, and then bending her over and railing her there. I actually give it an over 70% chance of working given how the set was going at the time.

Other option:
I avoid going back downstairs after I left the set. I knew I'd see some other guy grinding with her. That was dumb though. I should have went back down and tried to pull her off any guy. The bathroom option was still there but I had lost my confidence with this girl at this time.

No cover:
I told 2j that I love enjoy it when we don't have to pay cover. I wrote how I avoided cover in the suburbs with a slick move, and avoided cover at this Lincoln Park place by pretending to have a stamp that I didn't even have. Last night, one of 2j's buddy's had a hook up at this club next door. I didn't have faith it was gonna happen as we had 5 guys total that we were trying to get into a hot club. 2j's buddy's friend somehow got us in. The doorman was trying to make us pay $10 cover and I kept telling 2j we could just go to Division. Then the guy relented; I commented that 2j's friend's buddy must bring them a lot of business to pull off bringing in a cock farm. The bar did make money as three of the guys bought drinks.

Before we got in, 2j's friend was trying to sarge girls outside to bring to the door so it wouldn't look as bad. I opened this hot Latina girl that had stepped out of this SUV. I hooked her and I found out she had a hook up for free cover. I felt like I could have gotten myself and possibly 2j in but I didn't want to push it. I felt it would be rude to gets myself and 2j in and ditch the 3 dudes. I felt weird and it felt like asking too much for the girl to bring our cock farm in. It did teach me that if I open some sets in front of that bar, I can probably get some girl to get me in.

Columbian girls:
I found this 2-set of girls downstairs at the second club. I needed a wing and texted 2j but I busted out before he arrived. The funny thing is he ended up sarging the same set. At the end of the night, I saw him number closing the girl I was working. Some random dude was sarging the other girl really well. I knew my move was to bust him out and then try to double pull this set with 2j. I just didn't feel confident enough to pull it off, but I should have forced myself to try it for the learning experience. The random guy was good but he wasn't good enough to kiss close. Watching him, it was on and if I had been him, I think I would have gotten the kiss giving how her body language was.

Chicago Art District Event

2011-08-13T13:40:00.000-07:00

I had known about this open gallery event in Pilsen for months now but I never made it over there. 2j and I went last night. It was great. You walk around and look at art, which is okay. The great part is you get free appetizers and free booze. You get small samples of wine at each place, and some places gave you full cans of beer. I must have drunk 3 full beers, 4-5 wine samples, and a glass of champagne.

2j and I kept saying how the event would be awesome for a Day2 as it's free, something different that the girl probably hasn't done, and you can both get drunk.

The event is decent for meeting girls too. I like these art events because you meet girls that you probably would meet at the bars/clubs. I find a lot of smarter and/or artistic girls and I do like them better than the typical party girl. I met this U of C student that I probably should have number closed but it felt weird cause she had 2 friends and we didn't exactly hook the entire set. That set was funny because we ran into them 4 different times during the event. While we were waiting for the Blue Line at Grand, they suddenly appeared there as well.

On a side note, beast mode of going out multiple days in a row truly does change you. This event felt more like day game and while we felt that bit of hesitation initially, we quickly plowed through and opened the sets that were there. Our best set was this set at the end of the night. We were in there for 15-20 minutes.

A spilled drink made a girl want me even more

2011-08-12T03:46:00.000-07:00

2j opened this 2-set on the dance floor. I came into wing. One was a little larger but she had huge tits that she was showing off. The other was this short, cute brunette. I came in and started talking to the short girl. (Later I told 2j how to motion me to the other girl if I'm somehow talking to the wrong girl. I wasn't sure if I had taken his target by accident.) I introduced myself and started dancing.

This girl was in need of a purse. She was holding her cigarette and phone in one hand and a drink and lighter in the other hand. As we were dancing, somehow she dropped the drink on the floor. I think she was drunk and dropped it, but I have to admit that I was a contributing factor to the spilled drink. If I hadn't been there trying to dance with her, she wouldn't have spilled it.

I remember that my initial comment was, "OMG, look at you spilling drinks. That's a crime to waste alcohol."

She picked up the glass and looked at me and said, "I should throw this at you!"

I thought she was joking. At the same time, I didn't want to apologize as it wasn't really my fault. I just backturned her and started talking to 2j.

She put her hand on my shoulder and when I turned around she said, "I'm was just joking around."

I knew what that meant. She liked me. As I'm writing this, I'm thinking about this Manwhore podcast. He talked about how you have to not respond to the emotional drama that women give you. You have to be the man and stay centered in yourself. I think it turned her on that this BS happened and she was being a little bitchy by saying she was gonna throw the glass at me (though I did sense she was joking when she said it). I think my behavior contrasted what most guys would have done. Chodes would have apologized profusely even though it wasn't their fault and probably bought her a drink.

I started trying to dance with her. She wanted it. I went in between them as Seagull always wanted me to do with 2-sets. The friend gave me shit for going in between them. This might have been a moment where I should have ignored the friend. Instead, I backed off. 2j tried again to dance with that girl. He said she blew him out initially and she did again this time after a little bit.

I kept trying to dance with my girl. Some black dude even starting trying to come up and grind her from behind and I spun her away from him. She was dancing with me and that the friend pulled her away and positioned her near the black dude. I walked away.

Later, I saw the 2 girls plus another girl by the bar. I opened my girl again. I even spin hugged her. I tried to grab Vinny to talk to the friend and somehow he talked to my target instead. He got busted out but then the cockblock friend pulled my target away from me.

I actually approached my target again later and tried to dance with her. She gave me a cold look. I left and tried again and same thing. I figured I was busted out.

Thinking back, I think I should have ignored the cold look and just started talking to her more. She didn't want to dance and gave me that look, but so what. I know my verbal and body language is good so I should have just tried talking to her. Instead, I gave up.

Two girls in a 2-set both liked me & Jealous one cockblocked

2011-08-12T03:33:00.000-07:00

As I said in my last post, I really felt like making a whiny post. I think it was because I was exhausted on the car ride home. Also, I pushed two sets really hard and got two brutal bust outs. One drunk girl, who was eating pizza like my cat eats food, called me a creeper. I gotta say that's a first. Some tall girl kept telling me not to touch her. I know I'm just focusing on the negative. It's frustrating to not pull, but there were several cool things that happened today.

I'll also add that whining about my results the last two day is like whining about a bad streak it poker. A lot of it was out of my control. I found several girls that were really into me, but the logistics were just bad. I think if I were better at pulling, I could have maybe pulled the fat redhead from Wednesday, but most of the sets were just bad situations. Rather than whining about it, again, I should be happy that I'm even attracting these girls.

We started at our usual spots in Lincoln Park. My favorite redhead was there again. She looked really cute as she had her hair done differently. She was with a totally new friend this time who had a guy with her. I had a normal conversation with the redhead but she wandered off again. Vinny, 2j and I went to get a stamp next door for the after hours so I got to see that she really did go outside to meet another friend. Sometimes I feel like I'm getting blown off when I really am not.

2-set and both girls like me:
In some ways this was a cool set. The last time I opened a set and had both girls into me was way back in March. I was out alone and opened the only 2-set at this bar in the suburbs. Both girls were into me and the girl I ended up choosing ended up having a boyfriend. She was into me enough that she never even mentioned that but I found out later when texting.

I stopped this moving set at the venue with all the hot girls. I didn't realize it at the time, but thinking back, this was a set Vinny opened early in the night and tried to pull us in. In any case, there was a cute blonde and a decent looking Indian girl. I wanted to blonde and I put my arm around her and she immediately put her arm around me. She was high buying temperature. The Indian girl started bombarding me with rapport questions. Add the intent look she had, it was obvious that she liked me.

I put my arm around her too. I was sitting there and had two decent looking girls both liking me. I had both arms around them and I had stopped them as they were moving by. When I want to feel bad about myself, I should once again reflect on how far I've come from when I started.

I kept hoping a wing would walk by but none did and the ended up leaving. The blonde said they were with a birthday girl. She pointed them out. They walked and joined two other girls. I ended up finding 2j. I tried to stop the set, and my targets couldn't stop as the birthday girl kept walking to the dance floor. I tried to find another moment to open them but they had left.

Street game with same set:
I saw a 2-set and opened them from about twenty feet away. Just as the opener started coming out of my mouth, I realized it was the Indian girl and blonde. I was happy to have my wings. I immediately embraced the blonde. Here I fucked up. We started talking. I was all up on her. At one point, I had my hand behind her neck in a dominant way and I should have gone for the kiss.

The blonde surprised me because she recognized that my cat is a Ragdoll. I've probably shown my cat pictures to thousands of girls by now, and only 2-3 have ever been able to identify the breed. I decided to number close her at that point.

Simulatneously, the Indian girl had gotten bored with my wings. My blonde said, "If you want my number, you have to take it fast." I gave her the phone to punch it in and the Indian girl said, "Do you have a card?" I said, "No." She replied, "You don't have a card and you want her number. No way." She grabbed the phone from her friend, gave it to me and pulled the friend away.

Not a bitch, just jealous:
I remember Vinny saying, "Why are all Indians girls bitches?" It dawned on me at that point what had happened. I knew both girls were into me. The blonde had been very receptive to my man-to-woman kino and the Indian girl had been rapid firing the rapport questions. I guess if I were alone, the move would have been to try to kiss close both. I guess the real way was to go for a 3-some pull even.

I chose the blonde because I generally like blondes, plus she was receptive to the kino. Thinking back, maybe I should have chosen the Indian girl. I have said that I want to hook up with every race I can and I have wanted to be with an Indian girl. That's the only Indian girl recently that has even responded decently to me, let alone show me obvious IOI's. I've been with blondes before so I should have passed on her.

It was frustrated what happened at the end, but again, I should put things in perspective. I could have gotten the number, but it would be like all the numbers I have already. I'd have to put in the effort to text, and my conversion rate sucks cause I often don't bother texting often enough and my text game sucks. On a positive note, it's good to have a problem of two girls liking you.

Totally into me but had a boyfriend and cockblock friend:
Just before we left Lincoln Park, I opened this girl in this mixed 3-set. The funny things was that either Vinny or 2j was going to open this 2-set. I was gonna wing but I stopped and opened this set. The girl was high buying temperature and into me but the stupid friend kept giving me shit from the beginning. The target felt uncomfortable and disappeared to the bathroom. When she came back, I opened her again and it was on. This time the friend just let me be for 5-10 minutes. Then the friend interrupted and told me my girl had a boyfriend. Maybe she did as she started talking about him. I did a little boyfriend destroyer and kept plowing.

Sex talk:
I finally did what I've been planning on doing this week. I just decided to bring in sex into the conversation. I told myself I was allowed to bust out of sets by miscalibrating cause I need to learn to be comfortable talking about sex. I've been field testing asking what she does for fun. I often do that. A few times today, I followed up with, "How is sex not the first thing that comes to mind?" With the girl above, the sex conversation went well. I think it helped that we had transitioned to man-to-woman conversation. Thinking back, I probably should have kissed her as we spent a good deal of time with our faces really close together.

I used the boyfriend thing to talk about more adventurous and kinky sex. It seemed like her boyfriend was boring in bed. I remember saying something like, "You really just want to be with the same guy. I bet he just lays you down and makes love to you gently all the time." I then brought in the Nancy Friday book and talked about how sex should be more adventurous and so on.

Cockblock friend:
2j advised me that I shouldn't have left the set. I finally left cause the friend started giving me shit at the end and was telling me to go away. 2j said that I could have just ignored her cause my girl was into me. I agreed. I should have just ignored what the friend was saying and kept plowing with something.

I thought about that PUA I saw two weeks ago. It was in a 2-set that I had busted out of cause of a cockblock friend. I remember seeing the fat friend trying to bust out the dude and he kept ignoring her and she finally gave up on busting him out.

I was debating whether to go in one last time. 2j suggested trying to number close. We then determined that made no sense. As she had a boyfriend, my chance was tonight. Getting a number was useless. She'd wake up sober and not want to return my texts. I decided not to go back in because I couldn't see how I'd be able to pull her. The friend would not let it happen.

The only thing I could have done better, I think is I should have tried to kiss my girl. I tried to isolate but couldn't get it, so I should have just tried to kiss her in front of the friend. It wasn't ideal, but if I started making out with her, the dynamic might have changed.

So many hot girls for once...

2011-08-12T02:37:00.000-07:00

One of our venues tonight was ridiculous. I haven't seen so many hot girls concentrated at one place is so long. We'd be lucky to see two of these girls at most of the venues we go to nowadays. The lower quality girls at our usual spots doesn't matter as there are enough cute ones. Anyways, I believe in the binary scale: either you would, or wouldn't do her.

Part of me wants to make a whiny post and maybe I'll indulge a bit of that in the next entry. I should be happy that even though I kept saying to 2j, "OMG, look at that girl" I was not intimidated. I opened all the hot girls that I saw. I must have entitlement issues as I got busted out a ton of times. I guess I just didn't have the vibe tonight with these girls as I did two Saturday's ago at Drink with that hot blonde. I still need to work at entitlement as I probably do act slightly different with the hotties.

As I'm writing this, I think my eye contact has been different lately. Tomorrow, I have to force myself to work on steady eye contact on the opener.

Two near kiss closes broken up: One by a horrible warpig

2011-08-11T04:00:00.000-07:00

I wrote in my last report that the successful AMOG battle with the shitty "instructor" brought out my top game. I remember feeling like a man on a mission as we went to the next few venues. Competition always brings out the best in me.

Tall cutie and her warpig friend:
It was nearly closing time and we were actually walking to the car. The only reason we stopped at this venue was I spotted two girls smoking and I suggested that we open them. It was two Serbian girls. 2j and I kept plowing but we didn't get anywhere. We looked inside and saw it was busy so we decided to go in for a few minutes.

I ended up in the back by the DJ. There was this short, fat, blonde who will now be referred to as "warpig" because she is the textbook definition of that term. It's a community term that guys use to refer to ugly girls in the set, but it specifically refers to girls that also have a horrible personality to go with their ugly body. Anyway who reads this knows I don't hate larger girls and I hook up with them occasionally, but I can't stand girls with horrible personalities. There was a tall girl with curly hair dancing with the warpig. I started dancing by them and tried to open them but the warpig told me to go away.

My friends caught up and we were gonna leave but 2j had to take a piss. As Vinny and I were waiting for him, I saw this 3rd tall girl dancing by the original two on the dance floor. She had strawberry blonde hair if I remember correctly, though it could have just been blonde. Despite the fact that the warpig had already busted me out, I started dancing with this new girl. She started dancing with me enthusiastically. As soon as I got close, she started dancing with me.

She knew her friend well as she pulled Vinny into dance with her friend. He stopped dancing with her. My mistake here was I should have tried to dance with both girls, though I knew the warpig already didn't like me from earlier. The warpig walked away and went to the bar.

Close to going for make out:
I had isolation with this girl and it was going super well. She enjoyed dancing with her back to me and she resumed grinding on me. I started to get hard and when she felt this, she grinded me even more enthusiastically. I spun her so she was facing me. I pulled her into me and she embraced me as I did this. We started to sway to the music and I tried to stimulate her crotch with my leg as we were dancing. I started stroking her hair and caressing the back of her neck. I put my face closer. I blew into her ear and I kissed her neck. I pulled back and pulled her into me and tried to set it up so we were face to face. I was about to grab her face and kiss her and suddenly warpig showed up and pulled her away.

I didn't give up. I went back and grabbed her and started dancing with her. Warpig physically pushed me away. I went back and tried to talk to warpig and she said, "I told you to go away." As I stood back, she kept pushing my legs with her legs. 2j tried to come in and talk to her and she kept talking shit to him too.

Bad wingmanship?:
My first comment to 2j was that I felt Vinny had let me down as he didn't dance with the girl. With no one to occupy the girl, she decided she wasn't gonna let me have the friend. I think I should have tried to win her over sooner, but she had been a bitch ever since I tried dancing with them initially. Vinny apologized for letting me down. He did make a good point that I agreed with: he said that as soon as he went to dance with her originally, he got up on her and then backed off a bit, and she started giving him attitude. This was despite the fact that my girl and pulled Vinny in and told him to dance up on the warpig.

I told Vinny that I couldn't disagree as the girl ended up showing her horrible personality at the end and she had been mean to me from the start. I told both my wings that I appreciated the effort.

Chubby redhead/Close makeout:
I almost had another redhead before this set. It was a few sets after the AMOG battle. I pointed this chubby redhead to 2j. I told him that even though she wasn't hot, I was just so turned on by her cause she was a natural redhead. She was in a mix set, but 2j again pointed out the perfect time to open her. I opened her and immediately she was friendly to me. She was ordering more drinks but she told me to stay. I worked some verbal and she grinding on me right away. She was swaying to the music, and I went behind her and put my hands on her upper arms and she pushed her ass into my crotch.

After the drinks, we were dancing by her friends and I isolated her to the dance floor. I knew I couldn't escalate in front of the friends so I said something like, "Let's go to the dance floor so people stop running into us." We were grinding on the dance floor like crazy and I decided to start escalating. Her face was right in front of me and I was getting ready to kiss her when her friend (this short, thin brunette) suddenly came in between us. I started dancing with her and the redhead ran off.

The friend asked where the redhead went and I said, "Probably back where you were." The friend wanted to find the redhead so I lead her over to where I met them. Redhead exclaimed upon seeing the friend, "Where were you?" I explained she had come on the dance floor. The redhead said, "Oh, that was you?"

I started dancing with both of them. I decided to pull them to the dance floor. I passed 2j and Vinny as I was leading both of them. 2j was talking to this tall, black, natural friend that we run into all the time. I tried to grab him to wing me but he didn't come and neither did Vinny. I danced with both girls but I wanted to leave them and grab a wing. I told the friend I was gonna get her a dance partner but she told me she was fine.

The girls ended up walking off again. I was gonna open my redhead again but she was all over one of the orbiters. I ended up opening this 2-set. There was this cute girl who told me she had a fiance. I grabbed her ring finger and there wasn't an engagement ring. I just plowed and we started to have an cool conversation about travel, etc. 2j came and talked to the friend. The friend saw a third girl and started to walk over there. I tried to number close my girl as the interaction had been going great but she wouldn't give me her number. 2j then told me that the friend had said my girl had a fiance. It makes sense that it was true. I had sensed that we were way past the number close stage so the fact that she wouldn't give me her number had already convinced me that she had a fiance.

When looked for my redhead, I saw that the whole set was gone.

Make out faster and maybe pull:
I thought about the chubby redhead. She was high buying temperature and into me. I was going for the kiss but maybe I shouldn't have gone for it about 30 seconds sooner. I couldn't have predicted the friend was gonna show up like that, though so I can't be hard on myself. I really was about to kiss her when the friend came; what horrible timing. I think if I kissed her, we would have made out, and then the move was to try to just pull her out of there without going back to the friend.

Instead of opening another set, I should have went back to the redhead and just spun her off the orbiter guy.

Reflection on dance floor game:
Ozzie was right all along and I suppose my married friend from college was right a long time ago. I resisted dance floor game for the longest time. Originally, it was because Mystery had said dance floor was a trap. Tyler also didn't like the dance floor. Ozzie in "Transformations" was what made me open to learning dance floor. He said "it's a short cut to kino" and that you don't even really know how to dance. I have learned from my experience that both are true.

I learned to dance from youtube: mainly, a playersupreme video that explained how you listen to the beat. The other was this Asian guy that sells DVD's on how to dance: he explained how you change dance moves for the chorus and for the verses of a song.

It surprises me how I can have success on the dance floor. What contrast to me never being able to dance. Beyond that, I don't really know how to dance. I watch JV and he owns the sets on the dance floor. G had awesome dance floor moves. I just do some basic stuff and I guess I put out a fun vibe and girls respond well.

Crap "instructor" tries to steal my girl and I bust him out and take her back

2011-08-11T03:26:00.000-07:00

I posted the following in an RSD thread as well about creepy/shitty PUA instructors that people are ran into while out in the field.

I had my "instructor" experience last night. I was out with a wing I met on the forums and a natural buddy of mine. We meet up with my wings buddy that's in the community. He actually was pretty cool at the start. He was with a friend that my buddy said as pickup instructor. The guy would never tell my wing what company it was; we assumed it's one of the local Chicago ones that I've heard of. One of my old wings took paid $500 for a boot camp from one of these local companies and said he didn't learn much. (This old wing eventually became an instructor for ones of these companies too and he's no way near what I could consider instructor level: e.g. Brad or Tyler) Here's an RSD plug that I really believe: if you're gonna take a boot camp, save up the money for the RSD one. The $500 local ones here are crap. You'd be better of spending less money than that on Hot Seat (I think Hot Seat is $300). I've seen the RSD boot camp out twice in Chicago and I've heard Brad and Tyler at the Free Tour in April. They seem like cool guys and the boot camp looked legit. I also personally know two people who have had a positive experience with an RSD boot camp.

Anyway, I chatted with my wing's friend and he told me he was talking to a set that doesn't speak English well, but he was able to use some Spanish. I then asked him which girl was his target so I wouldn't go in and accidentally start sarging his target. I'm fine with stealing girls from guys but I don't want to do that to guys I'm friendly with. He told me, "I don't have a target. I'm cool with just talking to any girls at this point."

I saw this 2-set near me. One was this really tall girl and her friend was this short girl who was cute. I opened them and start dancing with them. I mixed verbal game and dancing. I actually had to occupy both girls as neither of my wings came in for awhile. My wing finally came in and I introduced him and he was occupying the friend and looked like he was doing well.

Suddenly, my wing's buddy that I had been talking to came in with another guy. My wing's buddy got my attention and the other guy started talking to my girl and took her from me (more accurately, he borrowed her from me, as you'll see). I started bitching at my wing that this is BS cause I asked my wing's buddy who his target was and he said no one and then they came double team me to bust me out. My wing said that other guy was/is an instructor for some pickup company.

I went up to my wing's buddy that it was BS what they did. I told him, "That's BS what you guys did. I asked you who your target was..." He interrupts me with AFC type talk, but he's saying it in a condescending voice, "I don't have targets. I treat every girl as a person not a target."

At this point, I just walked off and decide I'm gonna bust this "instructor" out. He knows the community terms and yet he was being condescending like he was "above all this PUA lingo" when they just wanted to be jag offs and steal my girl from me after they saw me doing well.

I approached the tall girl and just started talking in her ear. The instructor guy did a decent job initially of just ignoring me and getting up on her and talking to her ear. I pat him on the back and throw out some AMOG lines. The problem was she was from Spain so the verbal tooling didn't register with her.

Here was the key move. I did what I've seen Ozzie or one of Ozzie's students do to break up a make out on the dance floor. I actually had used this same technique myself to break up a make out that was about to happen with some girl I was working on three months ago. I put one arm on the girl and one arm on the instructor and pulled them into me. I was saying some verbals that I can't remember exactly as well. I think I said, "Aww, I'm adopting both of you." I probably threw some verbal jabs at the guy. The guy backed up a little bit. I then went in front of the girl, grabbed her hands and started dancing with her.

Instructor hadn't given up yet. He started saying in my ear, "You know, I'm good at this. I do this for a living."
Me: Whatever man. I've seen Tyler out in the field.
Instructor: (Says mockingly to his friend) He says he's met Tyler! I'm the best at this.
Me: Nice ego man (and I patted him on the back)

I then went back and danced with the girl a bit. She had left when that fool said that shit in my ear. I talked to my buddy and said, "I don't like your friends. Oh and if that guy is really an instructor, he sucks. I know I wouldn't have been able to pull that girl off Brad or Tyler."

The funny thing is we were around for about 10 minutes more and the "instructor" dude never went back into the tall girl set even though I had left it and had been talking to my wing and my natural friend.

I told my friends, "Let's get out of here. Look, I'm even leaving him that set. I just wanted to fuck with the guy cause they were being jag offs. I'd rather find other girls then have AMOG battles with these guys all night which will result in no one getting any girls."

We ended up going to the after hours place where we knew those guys were going too. I told him that I hope they weren't gonna do AMOG battles as I wanted to get girls. My wing tried to tell me that I shouldn't let it ruin my night. The funny thing was that it actually inspired me to bring out both my top notch AMOG game and my top notch game in general. I had two great sets shortly after we left that first venue.

We saw those dudes at the after hours. I remember turning around and seeing my wing's buddy there so I just said, "What's up" and continued dancing. My wing told me later that those two weren't gonna mess with me anymore. My wing's buddy supposedly said that the "instructor" guy was bitching about me the whole car ride to the after hours place.

LOL.

Sticking points: I need to be more sexual and cut down on my routines

2011-08-10T03:39:00.000-07:00

2j and I had a good conversation that made me decide to focus on two specific sticking points. He gave me some good feedback. It's stuff I already knew but hearing it from someone else makes me want to work on fixing it.

Sexual talk:
I'm afraid to turn the talk sexual. I feel weird having this sticking point. I actually am open minded sexually and I don't judge women when it comes to sex. I believe that they are free to do what I seek to do and that's hook up with a lot of partners and sometimes very quickly. I realize that there's no way girls sense this about me, and I say especially when I'm wearing glasses. 2j says I say a lot of interesting things, but this is lacking. Sets hook, and I can turn it on by exhibiting masculine polarity, but I should be able to bring sex talk in as well.

2j told me some of the stuff he says. I'm gonna use my creativity to try to create some of my own stuff.

I think that Wednesday, I'm just gonna forget about getting actual girls tonight. I'm gonna focus solely on bring sexual talk into the conversation even if it means me busting out of sets that I might have gotten farther with had I not done this.

One way I've been pondering for the last few days is to bring it up when I ask them what they do for fun. I think I can give one of my usual responses and then I'm gonna field test saying, "I'm wondering how sex doesn't come immediately to mind." I can think of several ways to branch the conversation from there.

Routines:
I knock MM routines now. I believe in RSD's idea of natural game. I stopped using routines long ago: I mean I stopped using other people's stories and tactics. It does seem to lame that people memorize other people's stories to tell rather than talking about their own life. My issue is I think I sometime (often) get into this mood where I just plow girls with my same stories. 2j noticed that I sometime seem robotic when I'm opening and this is why.

Wednesday, another thing I want to try is not saying most of the standard stuff I've been saying lately. I need to try creating totally new thins to say based on whatever I can get off the girl. As I'm writing this, I'm thinking I just need to look at each girl and see what pops into my head.

Having fun with openers:
I remembered 2j and I were joking around about using some canned routine for the heck of it. I used the tent opener for old times sake. I remember telling 2j that I wasn't even gonna use the less obvious way of doing indirect: that would be by saying "Hey, I have a question." I used the old Style way, and the over the shoulder opener to say, "Hey guys, I need a female opinion on something."

That was fun. I also haven't done my "I no speak English" opener. 2j is probably right that I'm robotic. Thinking back, I can feel how I've gotten bored of opening the same way instead of screwing around with the opener like I have done in the past. I'm bringing that back Wednesday.

Early drunken miscalibration & number closes

2011-08-10T03:25:00.000-07:00

I went out with 2j to our Tuesday night spot. I didn't see my favorite redhead. I did see some bachelorette party with a tall redhead that I liked, of course. Vinny met us there with some natural friend. I talked to them for a total of about 2 minutes. We noticed that they did what naturals typically do: they were BSing with some guys early on and didn't do any approaches. I did see them talking to some girl later on. 2j was bothered by Vinny's friend cause Vinny's friend had said something like, "What have you guys been doing? Oh, you shouldn't be running around approaching this early. It's better to chill for awhile." It's the typical natural limiting belief.

Drunken sarging on sober girls:
Early on, I was getting some bad results. I was drunk cause I drank a pitcher in about 10 minutes on an empty stomach. 2j and I went around early and I could tell I was miscalibrated. We busted out of two sets because I was trying to get too close to the girls. I backed off cause I could see it happening but I ended up busting out anyway.

2j noticed and was trying to help me but I told him I knew what was happening. I was drunk and was opening like I should in the middle or end of the night. Since girls were totally sober, it was too much for them.

Number close:
I took two number closes. I don't even consider number closes to be closing. The first was with this cool Polish girl. She was smart and we had a good conversation. She acted weird after I number closed her. I could tell 2j and the fat friend weren't getting along. 2j is a good wing in that he kept trying to plow even though the friend wasn't responding. As I could see what was happening, I number closed the girl since I figured I could lose the set at any minute. The weird thing is that my target walked away right after the number close. I always like to talk for a bit longer after the number close. It's the old community reason that it separates you from all the guys that leave right after getting the number.

Irish girls:
We were in a long set with these Irish girls. 2j had tried to escalate with the friend but she was too committed to a boyfriend. 2j said the girl was fun though. He stayed in the set to help me. My target was like the other girl I number closed as she was smart, well traveled, and had a similar positive view of the world as I do. She was receptive to kino as well.

A few minutes into the set, this guy showed up. I acknowledged him and then ignored him for quite awhile. He was cool in that he just sat there saying a few words every once in awhile, but basically just staying out of the way. I finally started engaging him because my girl said he is a good friend of hers that is only in town for a week. My girl liked that I know the deals for every day of the week. I guess I brought value in that way. I was also brainstorming on places for her to take her friend.

The girl was receptive to my kino and I would have tried to isolate and kiss close if it had only been a 2-set. I guess I could have tried anyway with the guy there. That's my thought now. At the time, I didn't even think about it because the guy friend was there as a 3rd wheel. Thinking back, maybe I could have isolated her for a bit and the guy would have been cool chilling with 2j and the other girl.

Division:
Division was dead. There were only two decent sets and we saw both on the street. 2j was out of state and didn't want to do approaches. He admitted that state crashes are a sticking point for him because he has a hard time forcing himself to take action. ?

I realized I have a sticking point where I get afraid to approach solidly when the door man at a place is watching my pickup. That's so stupid. I shouldn't care what he thinks and by approaching even shittier, I look stupid by busting out. I did a weak opener on these two girls by Hang up. Later, we saw a set by proof. Soem guy was trying to sarge them and he creeped them out as they ran across the street to catch a cab rather than stay by him. I opened them when they got by us. They didn't stop and I realized I don't continue after that point. 2j is right that I should walk with them a little and plow.

Some bum dug through my glove box and got nothing

2011-08-10T03:08:00.000-07:00

I guess 2j forgot to lock my passenger door. I wouldn't have blamed him anyway as it's my responsibility to make sure my passengers doors are locked. We were parked really close to Division. When I came back, I noticed my car chargers were on my set. I have 4-5 car chargers from my old phones in my center area. I guess some bum opened the passenger door and was hoping to find a GPS unit, phone, or Ipod. He must have been disappointed when there was nothing there. The guy didn't even steal the change. I guess I only had about $1.50 in change in my coin holder.

Monday Report

2011-08-10T03:05:00.000-07:00

There wasn't really much to write about Monday. I'm writing this just because I've been making a report for every night. I was out with 2j and his buddy in Wicker. I got several sets to hook but nothing happened beyond that. My favorite was this thin Argentine girl but her short friend cockblocked me massively. 2j was frustrated with his buddy cause he caused him to lose a set. Apparently, this buddy doesn't go out much and doesn't study pickup stuff enough. I remember I was working this lone wolf and his buddy came in and stood by me wanting to be introduced. I told him to come back when her friend showed up. He then went and started talking two 2j when 2j had his girl isolated from this 3-set. He went in and said to 2j and his set, "You guys should go dance." The girl then wanted to go dance and her friends were there and cockblocked.

We went to Division and it was dead. I like this 2-set. There was this blonde in it that seemed high buying temperature. She had said she had a boyfriend, but she was giving me strong eye contact and was receptive. The friend cockblocked me initially and then I talked to her for a bit. We left to find more sets but there weren't any, so we just talked in the street. I suppose I could have gone back and tried to set up a pull with this Southern guy that the friend liked and with the blonde and I.

Focusing too much on a lost AMOG battle rather than the fun night

2011-08-08T03:24:00.000-07:00

I posted an AMOG thread question on the forums one time and someone responded that based on the two stories I posted, I've been handling AMOG's and overall assholes in sets very well. He went on to say that I've been fortunate that I never had a set where the girls turned on me. Thinking back on it, he was right. I've lost girls to other guys but I never had the girls turn. Tonight, I finally was on the wrong end of an AMOG battle.

I did it to myself. It was at the end of the night and I was out of state. I just wanted to try to bust the guy out and steal his girls. 2j had a good point that it's really hard to do when a guy has already hooked the set and the girls are into him. Doing things wrong does serve a purpose. I've seen how I can successfully AMOG guys, and now I got to see experience how to do it totally wrong.

My main mistake is that I overreacted. The guy who is reacting less is the one that comes off higher value. I should be happy that when I went up and started talking to the girl, I did get her attention. The guy then called me out by saying, "You keep doing this to me." I then went off and said he kept coming into our sets. WTF? It was true but I looked stupid. The proper way to do it would have been to full on ignore him and keep talking to the girl, or not really react. I could have said, "What? Lol? Are you on your meds?"

Anyway, I'm no longer gonna indulge my thoughts about this AMOG set. I learned some lessons and I should leave it at that. Sometimes, I get too into AMOGing. It's obvious that I'm do it to try to make up for all the times I lost girls to guys when I had no game. It's a necessary skill to have, but I shouldn't let it blur the good times.

Let me just close by saying the I reacted too much that I could see the girls getting weirded out by me. It's strange to see a girl giving me that look, but I deserved it. Also, as I wrote below, the guys ended up leaving with the girls in a taxi cab. My effect ranges from causing them to pull to accelerating the pull. ?That made me feel like shit: that I got nothing but phone number possibilities at the end of the night and they went to eat or went to fuck those girls. Oh well.

Stealing girls & Trying again:
I should be happy with what happened about twenty minutes before that losing AMOG battle. 2j and I spotted these two Latina chicks that were dressed up very nicely. They had been at a wedding so it explained why they were overdressed for Division. 2j stopped the hot one and I went to wing the friend. Just as he was working the girl, the AMOG from the story above came into the set. 2j's mistake was he let the guy start running game on the girl instead of just talking over him and working the girl.

The AMOG actually had some decent moves. I forgot to mention that my AMOG bullshit above helped that guy and his wing pull the set above. After dealing with me, they moved the girls down the block and like ten minutes later they all got into a cab together. That bothered me because it was like I helped them pull. They might have done it anyway, but I accelerated it. I got what I needed and that was more experience and it just motivates me even more. Plus, 2j had a good point that the guys have some game and got lucky. As naturals, they'll be forever stuck at that level while we'll continue to get better and better. (BTW, I realize that the reason I keep thinking about the set is my own struggle with my ego).

We ended up busting out the guy form the set and the girls walked away. We walked down the alley to check out the street game in front of the bar there. 2j realized that the girls were walking in our direction and we could give it another try. He was a bit reluctant, especially when we turned the corner and saw that two new guys had started sarging them.

I encouraged him to go in. The two guys there were easy to blow out. We just came in and eclipsed them. The guys didn't even say anything. They immediately went into spectator mode. I think I opened the girls by saying, "OMG, you guys again. Are you following us?" My girl replied, "Are you following us?" 2j said we were checking out the other bar and I said 2j lives close (I was trying to seed an after party there).

2j ended up number closing his target. I had the friend hooked initially. Then she had cooled down to me. I warmed things up by her car but I wasn't able to get it fully on. Still, I helped 2j get his girl and we won the AMOG battle. It was dumb that I tried to win again in a set that we never really hooked. Another reason I got into that set above was because as I was opening one of the girls, the AMOG started talking to her and he busted me out with his timing.

Number closes & Standard night:
The rest of the night was standard. We had some free drinks. I opened this cute black girl early on. I number closed her just as the set was getting ready to leave. It was good timing. I decided to take the number and as we were exchanging numbers, I looked around and saw the friends were ready to leave. I guess maybe I had noticed it in my periphery and my unconscious told me to number close.

After that, we worked some sets and I danced with this other black girl. I had opened the friend as I liked her more, but she had a boyfriend and pushed me to dance and talk to the friend. I was grinding a bit with the friend but she slowly got bored with me. I left and started talking to 2j and then she touched my head. I made a mistake of immediately going back to her when I should have chilled. My main mistake was I should have worked more verbal game instead of trying to dance the whole time.

On Division, we worked several sets. There were these drunk, hot blondes that were dancing like crazy. 2j had a good point that the girls were too trashed. Those girls can be easy to pull sometimes but they also are totally ADD. They can be totally into you one minute and then just run off the next.

Do you have a phone?:
This is a continuation of the last section, but I figured it deserved it's own. I opened this girl who turned out to be Russian on the sidewalk. I was up on her right away. She resisted as I started escalating saying that Russian girls are more conservative than American girls. I backed off enough but kept the strong eye contact and a little kino. She surprised me by saying at one point, "Do you have a phone?" As many sets as I hook, it's so rare to have a girl basically throw her number to me. This set was on and she told me she wanted to hang out Monday as she's only in town for a few days.

I wanted to continue the set and tried to isolate her inside but she ran off. I'll still try texting her when I wake up. It was like she wanted to be with her friends and didn't want to be seen with some random guy. That is my observation now. I saw her at another bar but didn't approach her and saw her on the street at the end of the night.

I kept going back and forth with 2j about whether I should approach her again or not. I decided not to mainly because I was in a bad state after the AMOG battle. The pros for approaching are that she was really wasted so maybe I could escalate and pull whereas she'll be sober in the day time and has a high likelihood of flaking. Also, even if she wants to meet up, it's better to just try to continue the set now rather than risk playing phone tag the next day. The cons were that you could fuck it up by going in when it might have been on had you run text game the next day. Again, I thought there was a chance I would do this due to my state. In addition, maybe she didn't want to be seen with a random guy when she was out with her friends but would be more open to meeting and escalating if I went out alone with her Monday.

I think I would have opened her had we walked by her on the sidewalk but we were across the street. I would have had to walk over there and the streets were almost empty. Part of me felt like it might seem needy that I went over there.

Owning AMOG's, dance floor game & Entitlement issues holding me back

2011-08-07T04:00:00.000-07:00

Tonight I ended up hanging out with JW. Originally, the plan was to meet up with Vinny but he ended up going to Lincoln Park by the time I got to Wrigley. JW is new to pickup but as I told him, he has some things going for already that should mean an easier road for him if he sticks with this. First, he's already social. There was a long line to get into Barleycorn and he chatted up some dudes that were standing in line. More importantly, though his group dance floor game is spectacular. It's funny too cause Thursday and early tonight, he kept asking me how you start dancing with girls on the dance floor.

Of course, I say I'm still learning this stuff. I think in my head, I know the proper way but I have to admit that I'm sometimes hesitant to really do what I'm supposed to do. I did a few demo's for him anyway. I approached verbally and then started dancing. The other way was I approached a girl, held my hand up or did a high five, and then spun them around and started dancing with them.

JW started going up to sets and he started owning some group sets. I remember watching 3 cute girls following his lead. He's very entertaining. That's a start, but he knows he has to fine tune his game. As I told him at the end of a night, owning the set on the dance floor like that is a great skill. All he has to do is then pick a girl and focus the attention on her. The friends won't cockblock if she's single cause they'll already think he's a cool guy from him owning the set at the beginning.

The big lesson in dance floor is that I can learn from what he does and I also have to force myself to do what I need to do. I got into a few sets of my own. I danced with all the girls but it's usually only a half effort with the friends. Ozzie says you should hug and grind with the all the friends so they are comfortable with you.

Entitlement holds me back sometimes:
I'm fortunate that entitlement doesn't hold me back from approaching. I'll usually approach the hottest girls in the club with no fear. Tonight, I realized that it'll sometimes hold me back in these group sets, especially on the dance floor. I can think of two key sets tonight where I focused on a girl that was less attractive in the set and the girl ended up not liking me in the end. Onet set, I liked this chubby pale skin girl better than the Latina girl. The Latina girl was thinner, but I was initially more attracted to the pale girl. Plus, the Latina was with her mother so I figured I wasn't gonna be able to escalate. The Latina girl seemed to like me more though. The pale skin girl seemed reluctant to really dance with me. Maybe it's cause I choded out dancing in a circle with them, but she ended up blowing me off after a few songs. Some guy started dancing with her and she let him escalate a little more than she let me. I tried to pull her off the guy but she blew me off twice so I left.

The other set I'll explain in the next set. I ended up dancing with this chubby blonde. I was attracted to her and opened her initially. Also, she was dancing up on me initially. In the set was this really tall brunette and there was a thin blonde. I think the chubby blonde was cuter than the thin blonde and she had more energy so I chose her. The thin blonde ended up being my fan and cheerleader in the end so I think I fucked up. I blame in on entitlement issues. It was a close call which girl was more attractive if you take out the one girl being slightly overweight and consider the other factors. I just wonder if I chose her because I felt I deserved her more than the thin girl?

Owning AMOG's:
I surprise myself on how well I tool guys sometimes. Early in the night, some guy and pulled a girl off JW. He was frustrated and kept asking me what to do. I told him that it's gonna happen, but you can try to get her back from the guy. It's too bad we got separated cause I did an excellent job at the end of the night.

Right before JW met up with me, I was dancing in this 3-set. As I described above, it was a cute, slightly overweight blonde who had a ton of energy and was dancing all up on me. There was a quiet, thin blonde, with a less attractive face. There was this cute, really tall blonde with a big build. She wasn't fat; she was just big boned. For some reason, I didn't want to go for her even though I like tall girls. Maybe I was just intimated with dancing with her as I had a hard time dancing with a tall girl the last time I tried it.

The set would have been really on had JW showed up just 5 minutes earlier. I was keeping the set occupied but dudes kept coming in. Right before JW got to me (like literally 10 seconds before), some dudes were annoying one of the girls so tall girl lead them away. I planned on finding them again, but got distracted and didn't run into them until almost closing time.

The tall girl had left and it was only the two blondes. There was this tall, built dude and some drunk, thin Irish dude. The built dude was talking to my target and the drunk dude was talking to the thin blonde. I went right in with zero hesitation and started talking to my girl. The dudes weren't ready to give up right away.

I kind of felt like when I was out alone at 115 Bourbon Street on the south side like two months ago. There was this hot Polish girl that was totally into me but I had to maneuver three cocks triple teaming me, and the fat friends didn't like me. Despite all that, I kept pulling that hot Polish girl right off the dudes but the fat friends kept cockblocking me so I lost in the end. These two guys started bombarding me as I tried to talk to my girl. Built dude was trying to talk to the girl and Irish dude was saying nonsense to me. They made a good effort but their verbals weren't that good. They weren't even trying to tool me; it wouldn't have worked but that's what they should have done.

I ended up just trying to dance with my girl. I spun her away from built dude and was dancing with her. Irish dude was on my side trying to grind near me. He wasn't confident enough to get on me. I knew what he was trying to do. Doing gay grinding is a way to tool or AMOG a guy. A lot of guys are homophobic and freak out when dudes do this and they run off, or they get all pissy and lower their status. As I was dancing with my girl, I moved close to the guy and started jamming my hip right into his crotch. My girl laughed and the dude backed off.

Built dude wouldn't leave us alone and he kept talking into her ear. I literally got rid of the dudes like 3 times. Ultimately, the blonde didn't like me despite my spectacular efforts. She kept going back to built dude so whatever.

I did so many things correctly though in terms of handling the dudes. As always, I gotta thank TD/Owen's old "AMOG tactics" post from years ago. I remember patting the guy on the back to show dominance early on. I remember dancing with the girls and having the two dudes standing next to us shouting stuff. It was all gibberish to me. I tried telling my girl, "What's with these creepy guys? I just wanna dance and they keep shouting nonsense."

The best thing I did was I owned the friend. At one point, built dude really had her attention and I told the friend, "What's with these creepy guys? I like your friend." She then proceeded to pull the girl off of built dude.

You should kiss my friend:
I find it hilarious that I've heard this the 3 out of the last 4 times I went out. This girl kept telling me to kiss her friend. "She wants to kiss you. She told me." At this point, I was having trouble keeping my girl's attention. I was gonna try to kiss her but she'd dance with me for like 10 seconds and then back off. I remember telling the friend, "She doesn't like me." She replied, "She does. Go kiss her."

Finally, I told the friend, "Hey, I appreciate the effort. There's not much I can do, she doesn't like me now, so I'm gonna go. Thank you."

The friend had been telling me how she thought I was cool. When I said she was leaving, she gave me this look that I was describe as an "Aww" look. It was like she felt bad that her friend didn't like me and that I was leaving.

Maybe I should have gone for the friend:
It's frustrating. I suppose the friend was more attractive. She had a thin body. The other one wasn't huge but she was overweight, but had a cuter face. Besides all that, she liked me. She even took a picture of me after the gave me that "Aww" look. She was my cheerleader and helping. She literally pulled her friend off the other dude.

I wonder why I didn't go for her from the beginning. I wonder if she liked me when I first opened the set. I guess if I had really tried dancing and grinding with all the girls, I would have been able to tell which one was most into me. Maybe it was me owning the AMOG's that really turned her on.

I wonder now if I could have just switched targets at the very end. At the time, I didn't even think about it. In my head, I feel like it would be weird to be trying so hard for the one girl and then switching. I even had this girl getting rid of the guys and telling me to kiss her friend. I wonder if I could have just pulled her in and tried to escalate on her.

Lessons:

-I'm surprised how good my AMOG game is: I don't always get the girl but most of the time, I really lower the other guy's status. There were several other instances where I just got rid of a guy or even put some guy that knew a girl I was sarging into spectator mode. It's like a completely neutralize them, but I end up having to leave cause the girl didn't like me anyway.

-I'm so much better on the dance floor. I thought about how Seagull and I were upstairs at Barleycorn in Wrigley (the same place I was at tonight) a few months ago, and we didn't open for like 40 minutes because we felt so out of place. Tonight, I didn't feel any discomfort. I felt like comfortable opening just like I would in the bar area.

-I need to really dance and grind with all the girls like Ozzie says. That AMOG blonde set made me realize this. I showed the chubby blonde attention as she seemed the most interested at the time, but I never really tried out the friends. If I had spun and grinding with all three girls, perhaps the thin girl might have stood out earlier and I would have went for her instead.

Bad Night Persistence yields valuable lessons and near kiss closes at end

2011-08-06T10:06:00.000-07:00

Yesterday was brutal for most of the night. It was probably the roughest night I've had in weeks or even months. I blame it on going out on an empty stomach and drinking my usual 4 beers. I drank them over a half hour period last night and I felt the effects more than the other times when I chugged 4 drinks over like 10 minutes. I started to feel tired from the drinks too so I mostly stood around while I waited for Segun. I did open a few sets but I have to admit I didn't give it my full effort and left the sets right away instead of persisting.

The night was full of quick bust outs. I also regret that I didn't continue my trend of opening every girl that I really wanted. There were these two really tall, thin girls that were smoking hot and wearing really short dresses. They had some guys that were with them but that wouldn't have stopped me before.

Lessons in leading came from this hard day:
First, I must say that despite it being a shitty day, last night was once again proof that progress is possible in this game. I'll even go as far as saying that many guys would love to have my shitty nights. Thinking back, this shitty night would have been a massive success early on. With the exception of the tall hotties, I approached every other girl set that I fancied. I even had a few sets that lasted a few minutes, and two of those were dance floor sets. I think about how JW (That's what I'm naming the Asian dude from Thursday) said he's happy when he goes out and one girl dances and grinds with him. That reminder that I should remember to put my nights in perspective.

The main lesson that stuck in my head came after our usual debriefing conversation that Seagull and I have in the car ride home. I was thinking about the night and he mentioned this chubby black girl that I opened near the end of the night. He talked about how I lead her to go sit down and how she seemed reluctant but then followed. Thinking back, I need to remember how I was in that set because that's how I need to be leading. I followed what I wrote on my other posts this week: I decided I was gonna lead the girl (in this case to go sit down), I grabbed her hand, I turned and started walking like I expected her to follow, I didn't hesitate and I didn't turn around to look back to check if she was okay with it, and I gently tugged on her arm as I was walking away.

Of course, she followed me. Then, when we got to the seating area, I sat down and she again threw up some resistance about how she had to find her friend. Here was another key lesson:
I wrote before that Jeffy said in my near pull FR that I do too much "convincing." He said I need to blow off objections with , "yeah,yeah" and just keep talking.

I caught myself convincing her to sit down initially. I remember saying, "Sit down, your friends won't leave without yeah. It's only for a little bit." Then, in my head I realized I was going about it the wrong way. I just stopped talking and burst into some story and she sat down. It's the old lesson:

Don't try to change a girl's mind logically. Change her emotions.

These two lessons of leading: leading her with the confidence I showed on the isolation move, and leading her emotions as opposed to convincing her logically are the two keys for me to have more successful pulls in the future.

Momentum & Persistence:
Despite the huge sequence of blow outs, I didn't let the rejection bother me. I write about this old wing of mine that leaves after an hour when he perceives that things are not going well. This lesson of momentum from RSD is so huge. Tonight was more of a lesson in how you learn to trust yourself: you learn that even if things are going badly, you know you'll figure it out. Moreover, you don't lose confidence or state. I was laughing it off the whole night. I shrug my shoulders a lot of times when I get an instant bust out and I found myself shrugging a lot last night. At no point did I entertain the negative thoughts that I might have indulged in the past, "Wow, I suck. I'm a loser... etc." I know it was just a bad night and as I've written about before, even someone like Tom Brady can play a shitty game so why would I not expect to have a sub par night.

The persistence paid off in the end. I had some good street sets.

Latina kiss close opportunity:
I opened this Latina girl who was waiting for the valet. Initially, she was backing off from my kino escalation, though the eye contact was strong and we were vibing pretty well. I remember trying to move closer and having her step back a step. I remember grabbing her hand a few times and her resisting it. I back off a bit and kept talking and then proceeded to escalate again. Soon, we were in a deep conversation and I was holding both her hands at the end. I was thinking about setting up the kiss close when the valet finally came with her car and she ran off.

I made two mistakes. I feel like the bad night did affect me in that I probably would have went for the kiss sooner had I had a normal night. While I didn't let the blow ups ruin my night, I wasn't exactly in the PUA zone either. I remember this moment of silence when we were looking at each other. I should have tried for the kiss then and not waited like I did. Also, when she ran to the car, I should have followed and try to number close at least. Sometimes I worry that it looks needy or creepy but at least it would have been making an attempt. The set was on so I should have tried to burn the bridges down instead of just letting her go off and never see her again.

Hot, curvy, Eastern European chick:
Shortly after the Latina set, I was near this club with a lot of hot Russian and other Eastern European girls. This stripper I knew from playing cards in Milwaukee used to drive down to this club actually so it gives you an idea of how popular it is with that crowd (she was from E. Europe). I opened these two Polish girls that were standing outside smoking. They gave me some strong resistance and the beginning.

I think I feel entitled to Polish girls just because I've had success with them in the past. My first girlfriend was Polish, I have some female Polish friends, and my first SNL was with a Polish girl. I need to be nonreactive and feel the entitlement that I felt in this set when they were giving me bullshit at the beginning. (This is why field experience is massive. I know all these concepts in theory, but here I gained an experience that I'll remember that will give me a reference point for future sets.) Within a minute, the girls were comfortable with me. The leader girl ended up pushing me onto her friend. It's probably because she liked me but was probably seeing some guy.

The friend was this very pretty Ukrainian girl. I'm not really into big breasts, but I couldn't help but notice how huge hers were and she had a top that highlighted them. Seagull added that he noticed the girls had really pretty eyes.

It was on with this girl as soon as I moved my attention to her. It is amazing how I was getting busted out left and right and by trusting myself and staying out, I was able to attract a very attractive girl. I ended up stalling at the end, but initially, I was doing great. I was joking around and even tickling her. For some reason, I just felt comfortable being playful and I hope I will learn to be more like this in future sets. She was leaning against a wall and I was all up on her and of course we were holding eye contact.

She gave me a huge IOI when the two friends went back inside and she stayed out with me. I think my mistake was I moved too slowly for street game. Also, she didn't speak English too well. That's fine: physical game is universal. My problem was I was talking too much. I know my verbal is good but here it was undermining the set. I should have went to kiss close her as soon as the friends left. It might not have worked but that was the right move, I think. I had her at a peak buying temperature and the friends were gone so I didn't have to worry about the ASD associated with make outs in front of friends. The signs were there that the set had "popped."

Verbal Kiss close to close the distance?:
I shun the verbal kiss closes, but sometimes, the moment seems there but I feel awkward going for it. I don't mean that I'm scared to go for it. If I had been just a little bit closer to the Latina chick and this the E. European chick, I think I would have went for the kiss. Keep in mind that it's not like I'm two or three feet away like most guys would be. I just wasn't totally up in the girl's face like I usually am.

I remember both times that I had a moment when we were gazing into each others eyes. I felt awkward having to close the distance and it's probably because my kiss closes the past few weeks have been when our faces were much closer than this. I might not like the verbal kiss closes, but maybe I should have used them so I felt more comfortable closing the distance.

I could have said, "I want to kiss you" and moved forward or, "Close your eyes." I think I also could have started caresses the back of the girls neck or stroking her face.

Thinking back on the sets as I write this entry, I really can't believe I didn't go for it. In my defense, I did say it was a bad night. I think I'll remember these two moments from these two sets and when I'm in the situation again, maybe I'll be more comfortable.

Instant kiss, Make out with my friend (again), and learning to lead

2011-08-05T03:54:00.000-07:00

I went out solo and had another cool night. I can't believe I blew off Wednesday. I was legitimately tired, but had I gone out, I'm sure I would have had fun. Today, I started out in Lincoln Park at our usual spots. I was surprised that I was still in beast mode after not having gone out since Saturday. It's didn't take me long to open my first set. I ended up seeing my favorite redhead but more on her later. On the dance floor at our usual Thursday spot, I feel like I was dancing as a way of opening for real. Sure, I was approaching sets on the dance floor and stopping girls but I didn't open too many sets verbally. I found I was opening some dance floor sets and then not really committing to trying to dance with the girls. I mean that I know I should grab each one and dance and spin them but I often didn't put the full effort into it.

New Wing:
I went to this after hours club that my promoter that I used on Fridays promotes on Thursdays. There were a bunch of girls there but it was all mixed sets. I ended up meeting this Asian guy that's pretty cool. He never even heard of the community but he seems open minded enough to learn this stuff. I told him that he is already halfway there: he was out alone and was confident enough to go on the dance floor and try to dance with girls. Later, he came up and winged me when I told him to come into sets. Some guys, even wings I've been out with, are scared to talk to girls even when I already opened them.

He has some typical Asian guy sticking points like this guy on the RSD forums. He doesn't feel confident with white girls as he thinks they don't like Asian guy. He also believes in the social conditioning BS. When I told him about some of my natural friends, his first question was if they were good looking.

Unlike the dude on the forums, this guy is open minded about learning and seems willing to try to learn this stuff. He also was taking action.

Instant Kiss:
I was out on Division and wandering on the street. I opened this chubby girl. In the middle of me talking my first few sentences, I noticed she was moving her face closer to me. I just stopped talking cause my brain was yelling, "She wants to kiss you right now." It's cool how much I have improved. Just two months ago, I would have recognized the girl wanting to kiss me and I still would have been afraid to pull the trigger. I grabbed the back of her neck and kissed her.

I screwed up in that I pulled back too soon. She was drunk, I should have made out with her and started escalating a bit. I could have escalated verbally too. Instead, I pulled back and started running verbal game on her. That might be okay, but she was too drunk for verbal game.

Then her friend came up to her and asked, "Do you know this guy?" Had I continued kissing her, the friend wouldn't have even done this. My girl said she didn't and then the friend started to tell me this BS, "I'm sorry, but she has a boyfriend, blah blah." Of course, she hadn't seen the girl kissing me. Lesson learned though.

Make out with my friend:
I had a repeat of what happened on Saturday. I opened this girl in a 3-set at Mother's. This was just after I kissed the girl out on the street. I introduced myself to the friends. I must have been giving a great vibe as one of the friends said, "She's single." I kept talking and then about a minute later she said, "You should make out with her. I promise you she's a good kisser. She's a little shy."

She said the last sentence because the friend started to get embarrassed. I tried to learn from Saturday. I got close to the girl but she didn't want to kiss. It was like she was shy as she kept giggling and looking down. I tried to persist but then she wandered off.

Leading & The after party:
On the street, I saw these two black girls. One was this tall cutie. I stopped them and I started escalating on my target. I was immediately holding hands with her and she was into it. The friend wanted to go in a bar but the one next to us had stopped letting people in. I told the girls we should grab a drink. I found out they lived far in Indiana. Now, my new wing had wandered off. I told him after this to stay close to me cause I needed him for sets like this.

I told the girls to come hang out and have a drink. They agreed but the friend said,, "Where?" I told them to come with me.

Here's why I need practice leading. They had basically agreed to do this but I remember hesitating. I wasn't sure what to do. Also, I had mentioned my wing but he was nowhere in sight.

I knew I screwed up because when I felt that moment of hesitation, the friend said, "We have to go" and started to lead the girl away. I knew my girl was into me as she didn't really want to leave and ended up leaving reluctantly.

How to lead:
I keep thinking about how I'm supposed to lead. If I remember what I've read in the past, I have to make a decision. In this case, I said we were going to grab drinks at my place. (As I write this, I remember hesitating also because I knew my place was far way.) The right thing to do is say, "Let's go" and start walking towards my car. I have to walk like I expect them to follow and I should also tug gently on my girls hand so she'd follow.

Instead, I hesitated and when you don't lead, the girls will lead and lose attraction.

AMOGS & leading:
I opened this Minnesota girl. She was into me and her friend was really high buying temperature. The guy that was putting moves on the friend ended up leading the friend across the street and my girl followed reluctantly.

Later, I saw the girls. The one guy was talking to his girl and like three guys were trying to talk to my target. I hesitated for about a minute and then decided to go in. She was standing in front of this doorway and the three dudes were around her in a semi-circle. I went right in and ignored them. I started talking into my girl's ear with the hot pepper story.

The guys had some moves. They might have even read a bit of community stuff. One dude started trying to talk to the girl and then his friend tried to get logical on me. He asked, "What do you think about our Iraq policy?" I knew that he was trying to get logical and ruin my sarge. I replied, "Look at you trying to get all logical. We're trying to have fun here."

My girl said, "I like to get logical." I put my arm around her and then she started asking me rapport questions. The guys just faded away.

The problem is that the guy who was with the friend grabbed that girl a few minutes later and said, "Let's go." Then, my girl had to follow again. She even said, "I don't know where we are going."

Follow, you fool:
I was holding the girls hand as she started to walk towards the friend. Thinking back, I should have put my arm around her and just started walking with her. I tried to lead her to come with me but that wasn't the right move.

I have to remember how that guy just said, "Let's go" and started leading the friend. He did it just as I described that I should do it above. He said it firmly, and then started walking as he grabbed his target's hands. He didn't hesitate and he didn't look back for assurance. He just started walking and leading.

Drunk idiot:
Some drunk frat black dude started giving me shit. I had stopped this girl and some guy came up and said it was his girlfriend. It looked to be the case. As I was talking to that set, this other girl and this fat, tall, frat looking black dude rolled up. The guy started talking shit and making karate noises to make fun of me.

I looked at him and said, "Wow dude, you really need to learn to control your liquor."

He said, "I am controlling myself, otherwise I'd come whoop your ass."

The girl gave him this look and said, "Come on" and started to lead him away.

As this was happening I laughed, "Wow dude, you are really tough. You're like 3 times my size."

The guy was a jack off and pulled me out of state but I quickly brushed it off. I told my new wing that in the past I would have ignored the dude as he talked shit. Now, I feel obliged to try to tool him as he's talking shit. I actually felt no fear cause the dude was too drunk too fight and Division is the safest place you can be as there are a ton of cops in the street there.

My redhead:
I think I was acting too flaky around her. I had seen them out on the sidewalk. I talked for a bit, but I think I should have talked longer. I ended up telling them I'd meet them inside. That wasn't a bad move necessarily. I saw them sitting on a couch upstairs later when the place was still slow. I talked to my target for a bit, but it was a love seat so they were sitting together and there was no where for me to sit. I walked away but maybe I should have talked more.

My biggest screw up was when I came upstairs and saw them talking to the bouncer. I grabbed my target and high fived her and spun her. She was more enthusiastic than usual but I ended up walking away. I think this was dumb. Since she was finally responding well, I shouldn't punish her with a takeaway.

I ran into them two other times. I tried to get her to come to the after hours club but they wanted to go next door like they had last week.

I'm not sure what I was supposed to do since I had no wing. Maybe that goes back to earlier. When I ran into them on the sidewalk, I should have talked more. The redhead was with a new friend so I could have gotten to know her more. Had I chatted more, I could have hung out with them instead of what ended up happening.

On a side note, the redhead must not have been wearing heels today. She isn't as tall as I thought but I still want her. I think she's only 5'9" but that's still hot.

Thoughts:
I'm glad I went out. Again, I don't know why I have to force myself to go out solo when it always turns out well. I need to work on leading and I need to just chill with the redhead next time. She had been at Joe's Tuesday. It seems like she goes to the same places every Tues and Thurs. If I can't hook up with her, I should at least create a social circle with her so I have girls to go out with.

Leading, though, is my biggest sticking point. I had 2-3 sets that might have had pull potential. Those two black girls were ready for the after party. Yeah, I live farther than I'd like, but I shouldn't have worried about that. When they basically agreed to have an after party, I should have lead confidently towards my car. As Jeffy said, I needed to just keep talking about random stuff to keep their state up. Then, I'd get to the car, which was actually as close as you could park a car to Division and then I get them to go in and just start driving. If they started to ask how far, I just needed to say, "It's not that far" and just keep vibing.

Resistance to going out solo

2011-08-04T16:50:00.000-07:00

I hate to admit it, but for the past two days, I've been reluctant to go out. It's so much easier to go out when you know good wing men are meeting you. Vinny and 2j have been out of town this whole week so it's been up to me to go out solo. Tuesday, I ended up going to this discount theater and seeing two movies "The Hangover II" and "Thor." The movies were good and each movie was a great Tuesday deal of only $1 a flick. I will go there again to see at least one movie on Tuesdays, or just pay $1.75 to see shows on the other days.

Wednesday, I met up with an old roommate and had $1 burgers. I had gone on a long bike ride that tired me out. I should have gone out. I was legitimately tired and for the past two days, I've had a hard time staying up past 1am.

It's strange that I resist going out solo. I know that's part of my problem this week. Yes, I have been tired and my sleep schedule for night game is off, but had wings been meeting me, I'm sure I would have gone out.

It makes no sense logically. I went out Saturday and had a blast and I'm certain I would have had a good time Tues or Wednesday. I'm wondering if it's part ego protection. While, I didn't pull Sat, I had some big breakthroughs and maybe I'm afraid I might have a shitty night or have a night that won't compare.

I have to go out. I want to get better with girls and going out is the only way to improve the skill set. I'm just gonna think of how I used to go out solo when I just started this and when I started up again earlier in the year. The last time I came so close to a pull was when I was out solo with that black girl two and a half weeks ago.

I'm forcing myself to go out tonight. I even have a venue change set up for after hours as I found out the promoter's name works at this Thursday spot till 2am. I want to go to my usual spot and then try to venue change a girl or girls to the after hours place.

I just have to focus on having fun and cool things will happen.

Tried to pull a 2-set while setting up the 3some frame unsuccessfully

2011-07-31T04:05:00.000-07:00

Tonight was proof of why I shouldn't be afraid to go out solo. I often get breakthroughs solo. I made so many posts today as there were a ton of interesting things that happened. Also, I think I made some very obvious screw ups.

It was the end of the night. As I was out in the suburbs, this place closed at 3am on Saturday. Around 2:20am, I started doing the usual late night silliness. I thought the night was gonna be a bust. I was getting ready to walk out the door when I saw this 2-set by the bar. I went up to the shorter brunette as she had pale skin.

I can't remember the exact sequence of how I opened. It was late night, so obviously, I went in with full intent and I was really up on her with strong eye contact. I either did the Jeffy opener, or I started with, "Hey, I wanted to meet you. I'm Pokerpua. What's your name?" Actually, I think that's it. Then I said Jeffy's, "You are amazing. I love you! Give me a hug."

She hugged me and I could tell she was high buying temperature and into me. I knew the friend was gonna be a problem. I attempted to whisper into her ear, "We're gonna tell your friend that we already knew each other." I wrote "attempted to whipser" as I think I said this too loudly because just as I said this, the friend entered the conversation.

I introduced myself to the friend. "Hi, I'm Pokerpua. I met her two years ago. She saw me playing Golden Tee."

The friend started pulling on my girls arm. She hugged her and said, "She coming home with me."

I told my girl, "We're going for pizza." She moved away from her friend and got all excited. I put my arm around her. She said, "Yeah, I'm going for pizza! I wanna go for pizza."

The friend didn't seem too excited about the prospect. I grabbed her with my free arm and pulled her in. I had my arms around both girls and we were all huddled in close. I asked the friend, "Where do you guys live? We're gonna have pizza and drinks." She said they lived in a town that seemed farther than mine. I told them where I lived.

At this point, I think the friend made a joke about them being lesbians. I laughed, "I wish that were true. I need a bisexual woman but you guys probably aren't adventurous enough." My target played along as she pointed out this girl nearby that had a nice ass with a really high skirt. She said, "She has a nice ass. You should tell her." I said, "I'll tell her you like her ass." She said I should.

I was trying to pull my target into me so I could initiate a make out, but just as I was getting some space, the friend got up on her. I had my arms around them again. I tried giving the friend my strong sexual tension look. We looked into each other eyes but it didn't feel on like it was with my target.

The friend said, "Yeah, we'll have a tailgate party in the parking lot." I grabbed my targets hand and started leading her out the door. I got about ten feet towards the door and then the friend said, "There, let's get pizza." The club had pizza slices ready to go at the door.

I couldn't get them out of the door so I maneuvered them a few feet so we weren't in the middle of foot traffic heading to the door. I was still trying to get face to face with my girl so I could try to kiss her, but the girls were huddled together and giggling while I had my arms around both of them.

Bold move but too early:
I'm happy that I attempted what follows but I think I didn't calibrate it properly. I tried to kiss my girl but ended up kissing her cheek. She didn't react to that. It was "yellow" light as Jeffy would say. She didn't start making out with me but she also didn't run away.

Things were chaotic at this point. People were rushing by. I have my arms around two girls and I'm all up on them and I'm horny as hell. They are giggling and huddled together. I think I verbally I was telling them, "Let's get out of here. After party!" I decided to kiss the other girl on the cheek. I stroked her hair and caressed the back of her neck. I kissed her on the cheek too.

They didn't immediately run away. Writing this, I would think that they would. Still, I don't think I did this right cause they did leave about fifteen seconds later. I couldn't hear what they were saying to each other, and I can't even remember what I was saying, if anything. I remember I kept saying my target's name. I had forgotten it, but I had picked it up from the friend calling out her name. I think I was saying, "(Target's name), Let's go!"

The girls were whispering and then they just took off. I called out, "Heather." I tried to catch up but they were walking pretty fast. At that point, I figure I fucked it up and gave up.

Sell the after party and lead:
Thinking back on this set, I think I should have made out with my target right away. It's usually better to isolate the target than to kiss her in front of the friends. I think silly, end of the night game, is different. I should have tried to make out with her right away when I felt it was on. The friend might have been more receptive if she saw it was that on.

The way it played out, I think I should have lead more firmly to the parking lot.

When I asked where they lived, I should have said, "Let's have some drinks at your place. Let's go" and started leading out the door. I was about to write that I should have invited them over but I think I basically had said, "I have drinks at my place."

Clearly, I need to lead even more than I did. I started leading out the door, but stopped at the slightest resistance. Jeffy said I have to lead more in general. I also think about Ozzie's book. He talks about how you often have to tug a little bit on the girls arm to get her to dance with you. Obviously, you don't pull it so hard that it hurts, but just a little tug.

I remember I said, "Let's go" and pulled my girl towards the door. She was following but then the friend tugged her back. I remember I wanted to have my arms on both of them but they had their arms around each other at the time so I didn't know how to do that. I guess I could have done the old Mystery move and held out both my arms like I was gonna lead one in each arm promenade style.

Oh why can't I have sets like this when I have a fucking wing!!!

She just broke up with her boyfriend

2011-07-31T03:31:00.000-07:00

I think this is another example of where I screwed up a potentially good situation. I opened this lone wolf who looked bored in the beer garden area of this club. She said she was tired. The conversation was going okay. I was starting to kino escalate and she seemed cool with me holding her hand. Suddenly, her friend showed up. I started talking to her.

As I write this, I realize this is another situation where a wing would have helped. Since I was solo, I talk to the friend. As I'm talking to the friend, this big Italian guy comes up to my target. He is like face to face with her and then kisses her on the forehead and leaves. I talk for another minute or two and try to switch back to talking to my target.

I forgot her exact words, but I think my target said to the friend, "It's like you're leaving me out here." I interpreted it to mean that the friend had allowed the big Italian guy to be all up on her.

The friend tells me, "She just broke up with her boyfriend."
My target said, "Yeah, I got kicked out tonight." She then turned to the friend and said some stuff and I remember her saying, "He had to know that I could easily get a guy at any point in the year and a half."

It seemed legitimate that she had broken up with her boyfriend.
I swear the friend said, "She's looking to hook up with someone."

It sounds crazy to type that but she said that. (I guess I'm still haven't completely accepted my new reality. Some of the things that happened to me tonight seem almost unbelievable. Even worse is how I manage to fuck these situations up.)

I wasn't thinking shit test this time. Everything matched up to what they were talking about. My response was just to put my arm around her when my target agreed that she had just broken up with her boyfriend.

I'm not so dense that I didn't recognize the opportunity here. My mind started telling me to try to isolate my target. I said, "Hey, have you seen the inside? Let's go inside."

Before I could get anything to happen, the big Italian dude showed up and two other dudes. I introduced myself to this Polish looking guy next to me. The guys were cool. They didn't try to mess with me or anything. They were just standing there. The friend says they are gonna go inside and she leads the whole group away.

I think I might have to post this. I don't know what the fuck I was supposed to do. I'm thinking when they said all that shit, I should have gotten right up on my target (the girl who had broken up with her boyfriend). I should have held her hands, given her strong eye contact, started to stroke her face and tried to kiss her.

Girls is smiling & giving strong eye contact but then tells some guy I'm following her

2011-07-31T03:17:00.001-07:00

Posted this on RSD too.

Last night I went out solo and had several breakthroughs. As I was writing my reports for myself on my blog, I remember a situation that I haven't quite figured out. I was a club. It was around halfway through the night. I stopped this girl that was walking by. I do this with strong intent. I'll physically grab their arm while I'm talking. The girl stopped and I was up on her immediately. She was smiling and the eye contact was strong. She was looking up, and there was this ripped Filipino guy and some girl. I thought the girl was her friend so I said "Hey, that's my cousin. (It wasn't my actual cousin) " They asked how my target and I knew each other and she said, "We just met."

I wish I could remember her exact words. She had backed away, but she was still smiling and looking at me. It was like she was trying to walk away but then she stopped. What she said was something like, "There's something about you I like" but it wasn't those exact words.

She said she was getting a drink. I said, "Let's go to the bar." I grabbed her hand and lead her over there . It was like 10 feet away. She asked if I was buying her a drink. I said, "I'm taking you to the bar." Then I said, "You should be buying me a drink. I already got two free shots today (that was true)."

We were at the bar waiting for the bartender. I kept talking with her. Every time she looked at me, she was smiling and giving me insane eye contact. I had held her hand but then dropped it. I put my arm around her. There was some silence and then she walked around to another spot at the bar. I thought she was trying to get closer to where the bartender was.

This is where she got weird. When I got up to her, she was still smiling and gazing into my eyes. I put my arm around her and she said something like, "Why do you keep touching me?" I've gotten that before but she was still smiling and holding eye contact. When girls have said that before that were pissed, I could tell they were mad.

I let go and kept trying to talk. Then, she moved by some guy and started talking to him. I walked over and she gazing right into my eyes. I swear she was still smiling but it seems weird that she would be after what she said. She said, "This guy keeps following me."

I was like, "WTF?" I shrugged and just walked away.

I don't know if I was being creepy. It felt like it at the end but again, her facial expressions and eye contact didn't match. I've creeped girls out before so I know what it looks like. They don't keep smiling and looking into my eyes. They get a pissed off look in their eyes, or they run off, or they tell me to get away from them or say very firmly, "Don't touch me!"

In the beginning, it seemed like it was totally on. When she almost walked away and I plowed, it was as if I could see that internal battle happening inside her b/w logic and emotion. She was cool with me taking her to the bar. Then, I don't know what was going on or how I screwed up.

Example of Community overthinking "Are you gonna make out with my friend?" My reponse

2011-07-31T02:46:00.000-07:00

I posted this on the RSD forums. I had forgotten that this happened to me. It's stupid how I manage to screw up good situations by over analyzing things sometimes. I've definitely screwed up pulls cause of this issue.

Being an analytical person in general, I've always loved pickup theory. Another reason I've always been drawn to it is that my understanding of pickup and social situations was based solely on social conditioning. Actually learning what really attracts girls helped me a ton cause I actually went out in addition to keyboard jockeying. I've also mentioned that the old Tyler AMOG tactics posts for his early days helped me deal with all the uncomfortable situations that can arise with guys at the bar.

There have been several threads lately about how guys over think stuff to their detriment. RSD's core principle of "Being present" involves turning off your analyzing while you're in the field.

I thought I had gotten over this problem. I think I have for the most part, but as I was thinking back on tonight I realized that I still do it sometimes.

I was really on at the beginning of the night. My first set was me opening what I felt was the hottest girl in the club and she started telling me the stuff Tyler says they'll say when you are doing everything right. It's the first time a hot girl ever told me "You're amazing," "You're beautiful" after my opener. I'm clearly not: I'm an overweight Filipino guy with glasses.

Anyway, I mention that so it's clear I was in the zone. The second set I opened was this 4-set. I opened one girl hard. Then, I introduced myself to the friends. I was talking to the girl. A few minutes, in I heard the two girls say something about make out. I turned to look at them and one of the friends said, "Hey, we're wondering if you are gonna make out with our friend?"

This is perfect of example of how knowing all this theory can fuck you up sometimes. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the average guy at that point would turn to the girl and try to kiss her.

What did I do? Here's what went through my mind:
-Is that a shit test?
-Well, I did open that hot blonde amazingly earlier so I must be in the zone. I can't sound too eager though.
-(My mind was thinking about how some girls will just drop sex into the conversation and you can't sound too eager as it's a shit test.)

My response:
"Maybe."

They giggled and I kept trying to talk to the girl but they busted me out shortly afterward.
Thinking back, I think I would have liked my response to be, "Maybe. Is she a good kisser?" Of course they'd say, "Yes" and then I could have went for it.

This all made me realize how the average guy response was certainly better than what did, and possibly still better than the response I came up with after some further though.

Just a cautionary tale. Writing this post made me realize that I probably screwed up some pull opportunities with this same over analyzing problem over the past two weeks. Again, the average guy in the situation might make better decisions. I guess sometimes I have to think about what Jeffy said about "Karate no come from (head), no come from (heart) but from (party dong)." The average could would follow that and not over analyze.